[pct-l] first night out

[Ron Dye]

Chuck,

Your advice is sound.  In 2008 Robocop camped between the border and Lake
Morena.  He was off-trail and during the night nobody bothered him.  But, at
first light, the illegals came to his camp and opened his tent flap to see
what he had.  Keep in mind, they didn't just start their trip and they were
looking for food, water and possibly money - which all hikers will have with
them.

Ron

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On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 8:36 AM
To: CHUCK CHELIN
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; shelly skye
Subject: Re: [pct-l] first night out

Use one of the start date lists (here or postholer) to determine if anyone
is starting when you do. Maybe you can convince another hiker to take an
easy first day also. Even if they start early, you could night hike a couple
hours and still cover several miles. I have no intention of making it to
lake morena on day 1. Hauser Creek seems like a good goal, but if there is
no water there, I may just camp on the ridge above it. 

See you on the trail! :)

Misspellings and typos brought to you by iPhone.

On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:27 AM, CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net> wrote:

> Good morning, Shelly,
> 
> I avoid camping anywhere between the border and Lake Morena due to the
high
> probability of encountering illegal aliens.  I've encountered a dozen or
so
> non English-speaking people with little or no gear walking on the PCT or
> loitering in the area, particularly in the "shelter" of the timber in
Hauser
> Creek Canyon.  They've never given me the least problem, but I'm a guy and
> the encounters were in broad daylight, and with numerous other PCT hikers
in
> the area.
> 
> I don't think the prevalence of Border Patrol vehicles and helicopters in
> the area is because they have nothing else better to do, nor do I think
they
> provide sufficient deterrent/protection.  It may, and probably will be,
> reasonably safe to camp in that stretch but I don't choose to encourage
the
> risk.
> 
> A day's hike north of Lake Morena the risk is very much reduced; in my
> opinion to near-zero.
> 
> If I though I simply must overnight in the area I would inquire if I could
> pitch somewhere close to locals in or around Campo.
> 
> Steel-Eye
> 
> Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT - 1965
> 
> http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
> 
> http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 7:16 AM, shelly skye <shelbel26 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> HI all. I am searching for an opinion or two, or more should it come to
>> that... It appears I will be getting a late start the day I leave Campo
and
>> am wondering if the small seasonal creek 4.2 miles in is a safe place to
>> bed
>> down for the night. I'll have plenty of water so that won't be an issue,
>> I'm
>> just wondering how safe it is to park myself there for the night. Solo
>> woman
>> and all. Or if not, any other ideas about what would be safer? Thanks for
>> your help!
>> 
>> --
>> Shelly
>> 
>> "We are not lost. We are searching alternative destinations."
>> Unknown author
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