[pct-l] Tarp construction

[CHUCK CHELIN]

Good afternoon, Mike,

Regular tie-out grommets are far-and-away the best, with a
pebble-in-the-corner a poor second.  A sheet bend attachment is really poor.

A sheet bend – which has the same bends as a bowline, but for a different
application – won’t hold on most of the thin, slick tarp materials.  Even if
a sheet bend can be made to hold, considerable material will be required to
do so which significantly adds to the sheet wrinkling and sagging tendency.
I would certainly try such a knot under strain conditions rather than
assuming it will be successful.

Steel-Eye

Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT – 1965

http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye

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On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Mike Cunningham <hikermiker at yahoo.com>wrote:

> There is a knot called the sheet bend that is used for tying  a large rope
> or tarp or sail or even a sheet to a smaller rope or cord. It has been  used
> for centuries and is actually pretty easy to tie. Once you have learned it
> you need not worry about marbles or rocks or garter belt clips.
>
> hm
>
> --- On Tue, 3/15/11, Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <
> diane at santabarbarahikes.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Tarp construction
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 6:25 PM
>
>
> Just wondering here if recycling the attachment thingies on ladies
> garter belts for attaching silk hose would be a lighter weight option
> that results in slightly less wrinkling. Probably a little too light
> though since they are expecting silk and not silnylon.
>
> Diane
>
> On Mar 15, 2011, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> >
> > Good morning, Nate,
> >
> > Attaching a cord to a sheet by folding the material over a small
> > object is a
> > very old technique, and one that works well ? after a fashion.  I?
> > ve done so
> > quite a bit, but I?m not fond of carrying 6-8 marbles; I just pick
> > up small
> > pebbles, short knuckles of wood, or even tiny evergreen cones for the
> > purpose.  This works well at the corners, but along the sides of
> > the sheet
> > doing so creates considerable wrinkling and subsequent flopping and
> > sagging.
> >
> >
> > Most department stores, sporting goods stores, surplus stores, and
> > hardware
> > stores sell various types of light-weight cord which will work for
> > guy-lines, but most of it is probably too heavy and strong for this
> > intended
> > purpose.
> >
> > Steel-Eye
> >
> > Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT ? 1965
> >
> > http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
> >
> > http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Nathan Miller
> > <erccmacfitheal at yahoo.com>wrote:
> >
> >> I'm considering trying a hammock and tarp this season.  I'm also
> >> considering making my own tarp.
> >>
> >> I found some info. on the net to the effect that I can make a tarp by
> >> taking my larger sheet of Tyvek, wrapping a small portion around a
> >> marble
> >> wherever I want a tie-off, and then putting a slip knot around the
> >> marble to
> >> form what are essentially fully dynamic grommets.
> >>
> >> I have three questions:
> >> -Has anyone else tried this method?
> >> -Where do I get paracord?  Military surplus?
> >> -Where do I get a small piece of black Tyvek?
> >>
> >> -Nate the Trail Zombie
>
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