[pct-l] New Bear Canister (not yet apporved)

giniajim jplynch at crosslink.net
Mon Jan 24 14:15:31 CST 2011


Great idea, and not only for the bear canisters, but other stuff that might get hidden under duff, leaves and left behind as you're packing up.  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Paul Robison 
  To: albert at survivalcrafters.com ; Kevin Cook 
  Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net 
  Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] New Bear Canister (not yet apporved)


  while on the subject,

  i got some highly reflective tape, that the use on boats... i got it at walmart 
  for 1.29$ and put it around my canister like a stripe... makes it highly visible 
  if a bear knocks it and rolls it into some bushes.

  definitely recommend marking it some way to make it more visible




  ________________________________
  From: "albert at survivalcrafters.com" <albert at survivalcrafters.com>
  To: Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com>
  Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
  Sent: Mon, January 24, 2011 1:13:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] New Bear Canister (not yet apporved)


  I'm not sure but I thought I read somewhere that the canisters are round and
  smooth so the bears can't run far away from your camp with them if they do
  get a hold of one. Also, I think they're fat for the same reason instead of
  tall and thin, they're just fat enough that they won't fit in a bears jaws
  where they can run off with it. Supposedly, if a bear does get a canister it
  will still be in retrievable distance (and hopefully still full!) once he's
  done mauling it.

  Here's a cool youtube video of one in action...

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMoIbMogg-Q


  Albert




  -----Original Message-----
  From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
  On Behalf Of Kevin Cook
  Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 7:44 AM
  To: hetchhetchyman at aol.com
  Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] New Bear Canister (not yet apporved)

  I'm glad to see more products entering the market. You do bring up an
  interesting point about what will happen now that SBBIG is gone.

  I'd also be worried about it rolling, but my main concern is pack-ability.
  Round things suck for putting in a pack :P It doesn't give real an accurate
  weight spec, just <2lbs. So it seems to be a minimal improvement over what
  has already proven itself in the field for years.

  Thanks for sharing this though. It is cool. I'll be ordering a Bear Vault
  though ;)

  On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 12:26 AM, <hetchhetchyman at aol.com> wrote:

  >
  > Hey everyone I thought you might be interested in a new bear resistant 
  > canister.
  > It is not yet approved and thats the really interesting part...
  > The SBBIG (Sierra Black bear Inter agency group) is no more and since 
  > they were responsible for testing and approving bear canisters the 
  > fate of this new canister should prove interesting. I am really 
  > curious how they will test it and get it approved by..
  > how ever is approving these things nowadays.
  > I had heard it is left up to the individual ranger districts.
  > Anyhow here is the link to this prototype Bear Canister:
  > http://www.camp4outdoors.com/
  >
  > Supposedly it will weigh anywhere from 1.75 to 2 lbs. with a volume of 
  > up to 700 cubic inches.
  > It can be split into two halves like a plastic easter egg for 
  > transport and there is an extension ring to bring volume up to the 
  > maximum of 700 cubic inches. It has integral straps for lashing to the 
  > pack.
  > I can't find any real dimensions on their website and the thing looks 
  > a bit ungainly in the pictures.
  > It is way too soon to know wether this thing is even practical let 
  > alone bear resistant.
  >
  > Anyhow I wish someone would make a more "kidney" shaped canister to 
  > better fit inside our smaller thru hiker packs but whatever.
  > Better Yet an approved Ursack.
  > -Iceaxe
  >
  >
  >
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