[pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell

giniajim jplynch at crosslink.net
Wed Jan 5 11:36:24 CST 2011


Might depend on where you are.  If you're in a national park, you cannot disturb wildlife.  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Chapman 
  To: giniajim 
  Cc: Melanie Clarke ; Paul Robison ; pct-l at backcountry.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:58 AM
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell


  Heres a little fun fact,CA fish and game says that california
  rattlesnakes are far from endangered,not even threatened to be
  endangered,and totally legal to take without a licence,so all were
  really talking about is your personal moral ground,so excuse me if you
  happen to see me eating a snake burrito.

  On 1/5/11, Mike Chapman <altathunder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
  > Just to clarify,your right Paul! Hunting snakes does take energy,but
  > if you read my posts instead of  passing judgment,you will find that
  > infact I am not hunting snakes!!! If I happen across one,it would be a
  > very tasty meal for me to pass on,as well as rats and such to balance
  > the dang ecosystem for melanie. And I said "THE REMAINS WOULD BE
  > BURNED"(or buried),so no people affected by my meal,and thats about
  > the only fires I plan on building(non firebug) as I will do the
  > journey with cold food. I just didnt like when you put trailpooper in
  > my face,and you seem to need the last word(childish). If theres a
  > problem with my writing or alot of commas,,,,, then please cease to
  > read. O.K. thats the last I will speak of the matter,this is a huge
  > downer,and if this is the kind of people ill be dealing with,then
  > thank god im going alone,Ive planned this hike for over 14 years and
  > you cant,wont,and will never bring me down,even with your name calling
  > e-mails,some were funny(thanks),but it shows me the lack of respect
  > you have for others. Hike on in good health and good luck everyone.
  >
  > On 1/5/11, giniajim <jplynch at crosslink.net> wrote:
  >> Read "Don Coyote"; very good explanation about the complex and interwoven
  >> nature of the environment.
  >>
  >>   ----- Original Message -----
  >>   From: Melanie Clarke
  >>   To: Paul Robison
  >>   Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
  >>   Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:30 PM
  >>   Subject: Re: [pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell
  >>
  >>
  >>   Dear PCT,
  >>
  >>   We don't want to upset the delicate ecosystems.  Rattlesnakes keep the
  >>   rodent population down.  You take out this valuable member and the
  >> rodent
  >>   population will explode.  I'm not a biologist but rodents carry
  >> diseases,
  >>   maybe they will destroy plant life, which could lead to erosion etc.  I
  >> read
  >>   an article from the Sierra Club on how the entire ecosystem of the
  >>   Yellowstone area was destroyed just because they killed all the wolves.
  >>   Deer and Moose exploded, ate all the vegetation, I can't remember but
  >> it
  >>   devastated the water streams and systems.  They explained it very
  >> clearly,
  >> I
  >>   should go look for it.  Anyway, after they re-introduced the wolves the
  >>   balance has been almost restored after 5-10 years, again, I don't have
  >> the
  >>   exact facts but you get the idea.
  >>
  >>   With so many people traveling along the PCT, I don't think we should be
  >>   harvesting the plant life either.  We can get food, the animals can't.
  >> I
  >>   think we should be self sustaining along the trail and not take food
  >> from
  >>   the wild life.  I know it's "cool" to survive like the Indians did 400
  >> years
  >>   ago but hunter gatherer societies can't support as many people as we
  >> have
  >>   now.  Even "back in the day", hunter gatherer societies would devastate
  >>   their ecosystems and have to move on to devastate another area.  They
  >> were
  >>   always on the move.  That is just unsustainable with the enormous
  >>   populations we have now.
  >>
  >>   Melanie
  >>
  >>
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