[pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell
Paul Robison
paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 4 20:19:55 CST 2011
how much of the PCT have you done ?
a noble cause for sure.
keeping something so emotional can be extremely taxing. i am glad to be in a
group where people can be open about our emotions and there for eachother.
but the rattlesnake issue is a big one...
... it's not about the hunting... i hunt all my own meat. but i do it in an
area where it's of surplus.
it's about efficiency. you're going to take an hour of your day take to hunt
down a snake, clean it, leave it's guts on the trail for thousands to have to
walk around ... all for what? 4 tablespoons worth of protein powder? you act
like what you do makes no impact on others, but in the stretches of the trail
where rattlesnakes abound, campsites do not... and the trail is thick enough in
chaparral that you couldn't go off trail to hunt. the whole idea is just
silly. are you also the type who plans to just poop allover the trail as you
go? the mess you leave behind is seen by everyone, at your camp sight and on
the trail.
not to mention WITH what? a 5 inch knife at 11 ounces? or do you plan to grab
native rocks and hunt snakes to subsidize your food? you're getting WAY out of
the realm of possibility at that point. not to mention any of these implements
would be better spent simply packing more food for the weight they require.
negating the need to kill the snakes.
i think this whole thing is stemming from idealism, and i would be shocked if
you've actually done this on the PCT. the pct is not like some wild national
park out there in alaska where you can simply kill what you find. it's a highly
travelled well balanced ecosystem with a LOT of human foot traffic. it may
look like the wilds, but it's a days drive from over 7 million people (where
the rattlers are anyways). have you hiked these specific sections on the PCT
where you plan to snake hunt ?
just some thoughts.
________________________________
From: Mike Chapman <altathunder76 at gmail.com>
To: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
Cc: Pct-L at backcountry.net
Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 8:45:47 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell
O.K. heres the deal,I decited to help a charity(mileage sponsors) whos
main agenda is to help cancer patients pay there bills. There are no
old men in my family because of the c word,I took care of my uncle for
3 years as he fought for his life,and the one request he had of me was
to help this charity that had helped him live out his days with a
little extra dignity(his words),I write this with tears falling on my
keyboard,I planned on keeping this to myself,but have done that for
far too long. Animal lovers,im an animal lover as well! But the fact
of the matter is I will not apologize for being human,I eat
rattlesnake,and yes I will skin it,eat it,and be done in less than an
hour,burning the remains.Why? Thats my personal choice and will not
impose a healthy tasty meal onto anyone or there general
vicinty(camp),I could think of worse camp habits! So now you know a
little of my motivation,although ive never needed any motivation to
hike,ive been a machine hiker for a longtime(trained and maintained).
Hiking at night is my option,not an everyday event,and to put your
fears to rest,the charity I raise money for is not expecting a dime
and will not think less of me for a failed attempt,they are great
people. Id be a fool to say im gonna make it and make it look
easy,injuries can happen to the best of us,but I can tell you that I
will give everything I got.
On 1/4/11, Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com> wrote:
> sorry to drift,
>
>
> but the best thing for diabetes is walking. it regulates your sugar
> naturally,
> burns glucose etc. etc. there's a laundry list of things that walking does
> for
> diabetics.
>
>
> and, loosing a foot; if you can get prosthetic, doesn't have to immobilize
> you... and feet are the first thing to go when circulation dies in the
> body.
>
> ... and just think how well is would sound in the newspapers "why do you
> walk
> all that way?" "i just wish the 32,000 people who lost their feet to
> diabetes
> could see the trail, the mountains..." and companies like mountain hardwear
> and
> pseudo high end preppy brands could pledge to our cause, cause it makes them
> look good... and the diabetics who end up hiking, well they're going to
> need
> light synthetic clothing... where will they shop? at the companies that
> supported them.
> ...and so many young people know someone, like a grandma with diabetes, that
> they will feel good buying a brand that pledges to help get people walking.
> etc.etc.
>
> it seemed to all line up, maybe in a few more years i'll make a go of it
> ...
> but for now, i just hike for me ... and for the time with my wife. it's a
> lot
> easier to grind on when i am self motivated.
> ~Paul
>
> PS, the list is the 'thru hikers 2011 by date' what's your planned start
> date,
> i'll add you and you can see who's around you.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: jason moores <jmmoores at hotmail.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 7:18:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell
>
>
> Outpost,
>
> I love your charitable idea. Sign me up.
>
> Jackass
>
> (Shroomer mentioned a "list" of yours that I'm supposed ta add my name
> to...which list would that be?)
>
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 15:51:27 -0800
>> From: paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Subject: [pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell
>>
>> it's a simple matter of calories,
>>
>>
>> with a 20 lb pack on, walking a mil on level ground burns 125 calories.
>> lets
>
>> just assume you're not climbing hills yet.
>>
>> so you burn 2,000 a day; and walk 20 miles with a 20 lb pack, that's
>> 4500
>> calories right there, assuming no hills and only 20 miles a day ...
>>
>> but you're starting in may 14'th, so lets say 25 miles a day, and lets
>> add in
>>
>> some hills, say 5 miles of 6% grade, and before you know it, even with
>> very
>>few
>>
>> hills you're up to burning 6,000 calories in a day.
>>
>> ... i dont know about your specific food, what do you use? how much
>> protein a
>>
>> day do you have? my food pack is typically 4500 calories, and 85 grams of
>>
>> protein a day, wit ha balanced diet, carbs, fats, sugars etc; i have a
>> hard
>> time getting over 120 calories an ounce. add in packaging and i'm down to
>> 112
>
>> cal / ounce. so for 6,000 calories a day; you're talking about 53.5
>> ounces of
>>
>> food a day. and this is a meager allotment, eating just what you burn;
>> and
>> not eating extra for sleep (when you body heals and muscles build).
>> that's essentially 3lb 5 ounces of food a day minimum; so looking at a
>> ten
>>day
>>
>> stretch, i can see 30 lbs being a light load.
>>
>> problem in the later stages is, you've already gone through your fat
>> reserves.
>>
>> it's easy to go from mexico to warner springs on 2,000 calories a day; i
>> did it
>>
>> and barely felt hungry. but by then your metabolism and speeding up, and
>> you
>> fat reserves are dwindling. By big bear, CA, you're going to be NEEDING
>> to
>>eat
>>
>> to provide your body with energy. and your muscles will be wanting to
>> build
>> ... so you actually need to eat more than you burn.
>>
>> eating just enough to keep from body starvation is a bad idea in the long
>> run.
>>
>>
>> anyway my rambling thoughts...
>> ... what charity are you raising money for? how did that idea come to
>> light?
>
>> i've always had this idea of doing a hike to raise money for diabetics who
>>
>>loose
>>
>> their feet, for foot prostethics, so we can get people back walking and
>> back
>>
>> onto the trails ... but i'd want 4 or 5 thru hikes under my belt before i
>> had
>> the audacity to ask an organization to sponsor me and raise money on my
>>behalf.
>>
>> raising money on your first thru hike is a tough idea, odds are low of
>> your
>> making it, statistically.
>>
>>
>> legal to eat rattlesnake? is that a joke? you plan on cleaning an
>> animal,
>> building a fire, cooking it, eating it, etc. for what purpose? you talk
>>
>>about
>>
>> yoru calorie protein rich superfoods ... snake meat isn't a great choice,
>> not
>>
>> for the time you put into the whole process. may as well just keep
>> putting
>> down miles. bugs and leather? if that includes mosquitos, camp next to
>> me and
>>
>> eat the campsight clear of mozzies please.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mike Chapman <altathunder76 at gmail.com>
>> To: pct-L backcountry.net <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 1:00:49 PM
>> Subject: [pct-l] My plans,in a nutshell
>>
>> Well ill be headed north on may 14th,I will be doing this trip
>> solo(maybe). I will only spend what is needed(raising money for
>> charity),I will hike at night if needed,I have no plans on staying at
>> angels houses(rain,snow and stars),but will be using trail magic and
>> rides(maybe). I will try to resupply myself besides a few from home.
>> Ive heard the storys of 30lbs. of food not being enough in spots,I
>> would like to know why? I have certain food and protein that is super
>> light and lasts way longer than I plan on needing. Im not the average
>> thru,I can eat the same thing for weeks and still love it longtime. I
>> can eat bugs and leather if needed! Water filtering is my ace in the
>> whole,no chem for me. Is it legal to kill and eat rattlesnake on the
>> trail? My mouth is watering already,snakestew baby! Would love to hear
>> thoughts on my plans,C-ya on the trail class of 2011,Thrubyeyou.
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