[pct-l] trail angel donations . . .

[giniajim]

Its great of you to be willing to help on your own dime.  A suggestion: keep a can or jar labeled with your favorite trail organization, like the PCTA; those hikers so inclined can toss a few bucks in there.  

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Burge 
  To: Ron Dye 
  Cc: PCT MailingList 
  Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 2:01 AM
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] trail angel donations . . .



  My girlfriend and I have been driving hikers for a couple of years now, and we've tried very hard to keep hikers from donating towards gas.

  I've been pretty successful, except on my very first day of hiker driving.  Being a "noob", I made the made the mistake of not having a full tank of gas and had to stop to fill up.  One old guy forced some money on me try as I might to deflect it and...

  Hey!  I remember YOU / it all clearly now...  ;-)

  Dude!  If I drive you anywhere this time, you better keep your dang hands out of your pockets!  :-D

  I'll see you then.  You won't be my first repeat...  We were hoping to actually be ON the trail this year, but life has a funny way of not dealing the cards straight sometimes.  Long story, knee surgery involved; tell you in May/June! 

  BillB



  On Jan 2, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Ron Dye wrote:

  > I typically left $20 but on one occasion donated quite a bit more because
  > (1) they went out of their way in feeding us wonderful meals and (2) I noted
  > that some other hikers didn't (couldn't) contribute.  I always asked if I
  > could donate toward gas but only one accepted it and that was after I pushed
  > it on them.  Just think what a motel/meals would cost if you had to go that
  > route and your wallet will not be so difficult to extricate.  I did notice,
  > on a couple of occasions, a sense of entitlement but that was far and few
  > between.
  > 
  > Side note:  In Dunsmuir I noted an older home was being re-wrapped with
  > Tyvek as they were replacing the siding.  On my way back from dinner I noted
  > a piece of tyvek had been cut out from one wall - interestingly enough it
  > was the general size/shape of a lightweight tent.  I felt this reflected
  > poorly on hikers.  I imagine the contractor might have given or at least
  > sold a piece had he been asked.  Again, sad reflection on hikers.
  > 
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
  > On Behalf Of Scott Williams
  > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2011 5:41 PM
  > To: Paul Robison
  > Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
  > Subject: Re: [pct-l] trail angel donations . . .
  > 
  > Great question Paul.  I think it's fine to ask, and did on occasion, and was
  > more than once told of the expences angels incurred that I hadn't even
  > thought of.  Gas and electric for heating and water, and even in the case of
  > the Dinsmores, who are wonderful folks and didn't want to beg, having to
  > rent porta-potties, which wasn't cheap, for the hoards of folks making the
  > last jump toward Canada from their place.  I always left at least $20 per
  > night for myself, but maybe I was being cheap.
  > 
  > I think it's also fine to ask the hikers you're with to try and be generous.
  > At times you can feel a bit of an attitude of entitlement amongst the
  > hikers, and that's not good.  The regulars like the Saufleys, Andersons,
  > Heitmans, and all the rest should be compensated if you can possible do it,
  > and I'm sure they won't tell you to leave if you can't.  They give us a
  > tremendous service, and are really great folks.  Also, when being given a
  > lift by someone, ask to chip in for gas.
  > 
  > What do others think about amounts.
  > 
  > Shroomer
  > 
  > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 1:54 PM, Paul Robison
  > <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>wrote:
  > 
  >> what is a good amount?  when someone puts you up, feeds you, etc.
  >> 
  >> or just if you camp on their lawn?
  >> 
  >> ... i want to be generous, but i don't want to run out of money at
  >> milemarker
  >> 2,000 either.  i swear finances are the hardest thing for me to figure out
  >> about
  >> this whole trail.
  >> 
  >> is 50$ a night good for a couple for a night and dinner??  80$?
  >> 
  >> people who have thru'd before,  what did you guys figure for donations?
  > is
  >> it
  >> polite to straight up ask ?
  >> 
  >> 
  >> thanks for the info,
  >> ~Paul
  >> 
  >> 
  >> 
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