[pct-l] First required place for bear canister

Paul Robison paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com
Sat Feb 19 20:43:54 CST 2011 

We had a bear that finally had to be put down... It took almost three days to skin and clean... Not pretty, not fun

Btw, no rifle worth owning weighs less than a bear can... Not in a bear legal caliber... Not like you can take them with a .22 (legally)  And having a rifle doesn't negate the need to have your food in a can... Otherwise it's baiting

When we had to shoot a bear we mourned... There is nothing fun or cool about it ( not like killing deer jk)

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On 2011-02-19, at 9:12 PM, Gerry Zamora <gerry0625 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well if this is the case I wonder what it cost to get bear tags and my rifle
> much lighter than a bear can. Been deer and boar hunting never bears good to
> know...
> Gerry0625
> On Feb 19, 2011 3:08 PM, "sarah estrella" <skestrella at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Up to 1700 bears per year can be killed by hunting in California.  Last
> year, 1278 were taken.  There may be 30,000 bears in CA.  Interestingly, "No
> person may take a bear within a 400-yard radius of a garbage dump".
> Mountain lions are protected in California.
>> FreeRange
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gerry Zamora" <gerry0625 at gmail.com>
>> To: <dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com>
>> Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear canister
>> 
>>> I don't think you are allowed to hunt them.  I could be wrong
>> same with mt
>>> lions...  they can hunt us though.
>>> 
>> Gerry0625
>>> On Feb 18, 2011 10:26 AM, <dnielsen at djmurphycompany.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Sounds like CA needs some more bear hunters. We really don't
>> have those
>>>> bear problems in AZ, they are hunted and we have a very
>> healthy population
>>>> of these wonderful animals. Same goes for the
>> mountain lions.
>>>> 
>>>> Just a
>> thought.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
>> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
>>>> On Behalf Of Edward
>> Anderson
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:05 AM
>>>> To:
>> Scott Williams
>>>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
>>>> 
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required place for bear
>> canister
>>>> 
>>>> There are reported resident bears at both
>> Joshua Tree Spring and at Golden
>>>> Oak
>>>> Spring.  I camped
>> at both locations.
>>>> 
>>>> At JTS, when I arrived in 2008, as I
>> dismounted Primo,  a bear was coming
>>>> down
>>>> the hill ,
>> with resolve, to greet us.  I made a quick decision to
>>>> immediately
>> go
>>>> on the offensive.  I picked up a couple of rocks and ran towards
>> the bear
>>>> and
>>>> shouted at the top of my loudest and
>> angriest voice - " BEAR, GET OUT OF
>>>> HERE -
>>>> GO, GO!"  I
>> thru the rocks in his direction.  He turned and ran back up
>>> 
>> the
>>>> hill as fast as I have ever seen a bear run.  I set up camp, put
>> out my
>>> bear
>>>> 
>>>> charms and had a good nights sleep.
>> The water is good there with a little
>>>> grass
>>>> for
>> Primo.
>>>> 
>>>> When Jerry Stone and his crew of volunteers fixed
>> the flow of Golden Oak
>>>> Spring
>>>> early in 2008, they had
>> camped above the spring at a place that had some
>>>> grass.
>>>> 
>> He cautioned me that there were problem bears there.  I camped there and
>>> 
>> saw
>>>> 
>>>> none. I had put out my bear charms. Rockstar also
>> camped there that night.
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I know, Bear
>> Canisters are not required until you get into the
>>>> Sierra
>>>> 
>> National Parks.  And then only in designated areas. This summer I plan
>> to
>>>> ride
>>>> SOBO from Sierra City to either Horsershoe
>> Meadows or Kennedy Meadows.  I
>>>> will
>>>> bring Canisters the
>> entire distance and also use OpSaks.
>>>> 
>>>> Schroomer,  I will
>> pick mushrooms and eat lots of trout and think of you.
>>> 
>> I
>>>> 
>>>> will be taking my time.  In the backcountry I cook
>> trout three ways:  I
>>> fry
>>>> them
>>>> after coating with
>> Shake & Bake (I use peanut Oil),  If I am below
>>> 10,000'
>>>> 
>> I
>>>> cook them on coals wrapped in aluminum foil,  I make Trout Stew
>> -
>>> delicious!
>>>> 
>>>> MendoRider/Ed Anderson
>>>> 
>> From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
>>>> To:
>> Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
>>>> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net; enyapjr at comcast.net
>>>> Sent: Thu,
>> February 17, 2011 9:10:58 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] First required
>> place for bear canister
>>>> 
>>>> Plain Slice and Little Engine
>> have bear claw holes in the mosquito netting
>>>> of their tent courtesy
>> of a juvenile delinquent bear, because they
>>> attempted
>>>> to
>> camp at Joshua Tree Spring.  Coolest tent decorations on anybodies tent
>>> 
>> I
>>>> saw all summer as you can really see the spread of the bears
>> claws.  It
>>> was
>>>> always quite a tourist destination for
>> newcomers to our camps who marveled
>>>> at the holes they had stitched
>> up with yarn.
>>>> 
>>>> Yogi warns against camping here, and
>> although you'll need the water by
>>> that
>>>> point, and it's a
>> really nice looking camp, the fresh bear scat all around
>>>> was enough
>> to make it clear that it is Mr. Bruin's territory, and not
>>> 
>> ours.
>>>> 
>>>> Shroomer
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Feb 17,
>> 2011 at 6:38 PM, Jim & Jane Moody
>>>> <moodyjj at comcast.net>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> It's not required, but I suggest you consider picking it up at
>> Walker
>>>>> Pass.  One or more bears hang around Joshua Tree Spring
>> and Spanish
>>>> Fingers
>>>>> creek, looking for a free
>> lunch.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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