[pct-l] Insulation layer

Sat Feb 12 17:44:44 CST 2011

Dear Melanie

I am very late to this topic, since I only read some of the topic on
this mailing list.

Your decision is right. I think rain suits is a must. The rain suits
protect you from hypothermia, even when you are completely wet,
because it protects you from the wind chill effects.

I am a heavy trucker, but my layer system is very simple.

Upper body
1. T-shirts 2 or 3 set   ( The old NorthFace Tech Underwear, very
expensive, but durable, I am using for many years. )
2.long sleeve underwear   ( NorthFace Tech Underwear )
3.rain wear

Lower body
1. brief  ( undergarment )
2. long pants underwear  ( NorthFace Tech Underwear )
3. shorts +  long gaiters
I think shorts and gaiters make hypothetical long pants. When I sleep,
I wear long sleeve and long underwear( pants) . These are my night
wear.

for tent wear , I have a very light weight down vest or a down jacket.

2011/2/12 Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>:
> Thank you everyone!!
>
> Well, the votes are in so I will carry rain gear.  I like the rain gear
> recommendations so I'm going to try on some things at REI and then decide.
>
> Melanie
>
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This idea comes up occasionally on a couple DIY gear forums I visit. It can
>> work. People have modified their fly and added a hood.
>>
>> The biggest downfall is, by wearing your fly as a poncho, you risk putting
>> holes in your fly. Leaky raingear will just make you a little wetter while
>> hiking, but if you then get to camp and have a leaky shelter, you could be
>> in trouble.
>>
>> I agree with others, you would be better served with a light weight item
>> dedicated to the task of keeping you dry while hiking.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Melanie Clarke <melaniekclarke at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Mango,
>>>
>>> Thanks, I am nervous about leaving my down jacket behind but I have this
>>> exact same experience, I just don't use it or seem to need it.  I only
>>> plan
>>> to do the Southern CA section to Hwy 58 anyway.  I get really heated when
>>> I
>>> hike.  I hike in just a fleece jacket down to 30 degrees, sometimes shorts
>>> even.  Then I have a nice bag and tent when I stop to sleep.
>>>
>>> How much does it rain in Southern California, Diane or anyone???  I lived
>>> in
>>> So. Cal for about 6-7 years and I never remember it raining past March.
>>>  In
>>> my ultra-lite dreams I'm thinking that I'm even going to leave the rain
>>> gear
>>> behind and wrap myself in my tent fly if it does start to rain.  (I've
>>> gone
>>> over the tarp vs. tent in my head and the tent still wins out).  I like to
>>> be in a tent with a fly when it rains, but that's just me and I can double
>>> the fly as a rain poncho.
>>>
>>> Is this advisable?  I would like to hear both sides of this argument.
>>>
>>> Melanie
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Axel,
>>> >
>>> > Here's another option - carry additional base layers and a windshirt
>>> > instead of a down jacket, which would have very limited use.  Last year
>>> I
>>> > carried a set of silks, a smartwool top and Cap 2 bottoms, my standard
>>> > long-sleeve hiking shirt and convertible hiking pants, a windshirt, and
>>> > silnylon rain pants and parka.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > At KM I sent myself a heavy snow jacket with heavy fleece liner and
>>> hardly
>>> > used it.  I did put on the liner once, but I could have gotten by okay
>>> > without it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > When you're hiking you rarely need anything besides the hiking shirt and
>>> > pants - maybe silks and rain gear.  You can start out in the windshirt,
>>> but
>>> > you'll warm up within 30 minutes and take it off.  When you stop, put
>>> the
>>> > windshirt back on.  In camp, put everything on until you're finished
>>> setting
>>> > up, eating, cleaning up, etc.  Then get in the bag.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > With really warm outer wear, you'd be carrying extra weight for use only
>>> > for short duration at the very beginning and end of the day.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Mango
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > > I was wondering if i could have some recommendations as to what kind
>>> of
>>> > > > > insulating jacket to use (weight/materials). I've heard a lot
>>> about
>>> > > down,
>>> > > > > even though it becomes relatively useless when wet. Any opinions
>>> are
>>> > > > > appreciated, but to narrow things down, I'm trying to go for the
>>> most
>>> > > > > reasonable price possible.
>>> > > > > Thanks and happy trails!
>>> > > > > -Axel
>>> > >
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