[pct-l] To flare or not to flare

Mike Chapman altathunder76 at gmail.com
Sat Feb 12 08:39:15 CST 2011


I just saw that you started this thread with only part of the post!
Thats some real backstabbing stuff.  At least put the whole thing on
there so I dont look like an even bigger idiot,WOW,im truly speechless
for the first time on the list,what a slap in da face,oh well,im
already over it,moving on.

On 2/12/11, Mike Chapman <altathunder76 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have used flares for years,ive never had to lite one,but I wouldnt
> think twice about saving my a$$ with one,and I sure as sin wouldnt ask
> permission.  I was just responding to another post,about bringing
> stoves to save your life.  I cant beleive the ego of someone trying to
> speak for 18 million people. My friends and family would like to be
> excluded from the list of 18 mill. in socal who dont want me or my
> gear. A box of matches are just as dangerous,no argument needed,just
> common sence,no need to disrespect the brainpower and actions of
> fellow hikers. I thought this was a close knit family.  By the way,I
> think Alta-nater is a good name,or stick with my fantasy league
> name,Altathunder. Road-Flare will only bring up this bogus thread in
> my mind,Hike on and try not to belittle your fellow hiker.
>
> On 2/11/11, Brian McLaughlin <brianmclaugh at comcast.net> wrote:
>> While I see the point you are making, I think you have
>> oversimplified reality, which is much messier than that.
>>
>> Smart people do stupid things. Well-informed people
>> sometimes act ignorantly, or rashly, or impulsively,
>> or out of fear. All it takes to become a stupid person
>> is a moment or two. And stupid actions, once they are
>> done, cannot be undone.
>>
>> The difficulty with lighting a flare is that they are
>> designed to burn hot and not go out once they're lit.
>> You can't hold it until it is burned out, because it
>> would burn your hand. You will have to put it down.
>> In SoCal's dry forests that is just begging for trouble.
>>
>> If you bring a flare, in some sense it means you are
>> intending to use it. Unless you have very specific criteria,
>> for when you'll light it, why you would light it, how you
>> will manage to handle it, and have practised all this
>> beforehand, the chances for screwing it up are too
>> high compared to the harm it could do.
>>
>> Just believing that, if you're "not stupid" you can't
>> go wrong seems kind of... er, maybe I should stop
>> there.
>>
>> Aimless
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gerry Zamora" <gerry0625 at gmail.com>
>> To: "David Thibault" <dthibaul07 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] To flare or not to flare
>>
>>
>> ...stupid people start fires not flares...
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