[pct-l] Dogs in National Parks/horses/mules/llamas

[James Vesely]

I can remember hiking down a trail somewhere in the Sierra's when I
looked up and saw a horse charging down the trail without a rider, I
knew he was a run away heading back to the stables, so I held up my
hands and shouted.   This stopped the horse and a second later this dude
running in cowboy boots comes up from behind he can plainly see I
stopped his horse but proceeds to basically ignore me, grabs his horse
and off he goes, not even a thank you.  I didn't think much of it
because I am sure he was thinking of other things at the time but you
would think he would be at least a little appreciative not having to
walk XX miles in cowboy boots.     

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Keener ( J J ) [mailto:pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 9:31 AM
To: James Vesely
Cc: pctl
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Dogs in National Parks/horses/mules/llamas

Greetings, 

I have an opinion about dogs and horses on the trail, though I doubt
anyone would benefit from it. 

But I do have a story. I was walking south on the JMT in September '03,
near the top of Glen Pass. Just coming over the pass was a cowboy on a
horse, rolling a cigarette, and leading a team of 
mules. Confident. I didn't care what he thought of me, but I did admire
his apparent nonchalance. 

Walk well,
Jim Keener ( J J )

On Dec 16, 2011, at 9:02 AM, "James Vesely" <JVesely at edmsupply.com>
wrote:

> As far as "elitist" goes I think it is the other way around.  I don't
> hold anything against horses or their riders but I have gotten on
> several occasions the feel from packers that as a hiker I was somehow
> subpar or a nuisance to them.   Has anyone else felt that way? 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net] On Behalf Of
> chiefcowboy at verizon.net
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 7:58 AM
> To: Hillary Schwirtlich; Charles Williams
> Cc: pctl
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Dogs in National Parks/horses/mules/llamas
> 
> It's simply part of the wilderness experience.  On my entire thru hike
I
> 
> never had to "wade through" it, simply step over or around it.  I'm
just
> 
> glad the equestrians have the same opportunity to enjoy the trail and
> the 
> beauty of the back country as we do.  I'd hate to have hikers listed
as 
> "elitist snobs" who own the trail.
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Hillary Schwirtlich
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:24 PM
> To: Charles Williams
> Cc: pctl
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Dogs in National Parks/horses/mules/llamas
> 
> I think "offensive" is a relative term. I don't really care what's in
> it,
> whether it's horse poo or dog poo or people poo. It's offensive to me
to
> have to wade through poo on the trail - or worse, kick it aside in the
> only
> good campsite around. (The only exception to this is wild animal
> scat).................
> 
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