[pct-l] Echo Lake south to Tuolumne Meadows-need 1 or 2 partners
William Moore
bmoorevid at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 10 22:00:42 CDT 2011
I am planning a southbound hike for sometime in September from Echo Lake to T. Meadows (approx 160 miles). My regular partner may not be able to make it and my wife would rather I not hike alone so I am looking for 1 or 2 hiking partners to share travel expenses and trail stories. Last year I, and my hiking partner, did the JMT in 14 days and I would like to do the Echo Lake-T. Meadows hike in 7-10 days.
I do ultralite, hike from first light till almost dusk and do not carry a stove but would be flexable to your hiking style. I am 65 but still in good shape (3 half marathons this year). Anyone interested?
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1. Mosquitoes? (Susan Alcorn)
2. Re: Mosquitoes? (Jeffrey Olson)
3. Re: Mosquitoes? (rickandurs at juno.com)
4. Re: PCT in 60 days (Austin Williams)
5. Has anyone hiked Section K (Stevens Pass to Rainy Pass) in
Washington? (Rick Tidball)
6. Hiking the PCT coming week (Ted Sundin)
7. Snow Conditions California Cascades (Stephen Clark)
8. Re: Has anyone hiked Section K (Stevens Pass to Rainy Pass)
in Washington? (Keith Kurko)
9. Section R water and snow (Douglas Tow)
10. Section R just for fun (Douglas Tow)
11. Re: Mosquitoes? (Scott Williams)
12. My experience in the Sierras (Madeline Yacoe)
13. Hiking the PCT coming week (PCT List)
14. Update: PCT digitized base map project (PCT List)
15. Re: Minimal shoes (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
16. Sonora update (hiker)
17. Re: Trail conditions - Sonora Pass (ned at mountaineducation.org)
18. Re: Hiking the PCT coming week (Tom Grundy)
19. Re: Hiking the PCT coming week (Tom Grundy)
20. Re: Hiking the PCT coming week (Tom Grundy)
21. Re: PCT Question (nina white)
22. Tarptent Sublite (Cameron Szakall )
23. Re: Tarptent Sublite (giniajim)
24. PLBs, SPOT, and SATs (ned at mountaineducation.org)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:21:11 -0700 (PDT)
From: Susan Alcorn <backpack45 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Mosquitoes?
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Anyone near Yosemite? How are the mosquitoes? Thanks for any reports.
Susan Alcorn
http://www.examiner.com/hiking-in-san-francisco/susan-alcorn
Publishers of two award-winning books: Camino Chronicle: Walking to Santiago and We're in the Mountains Not over the Hill: Tales and Tips from Seasoned Women Backpackers.
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 11:28:43 -0600
From: Jeffrey Olson <jolson at olc.edu>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mosquitoes?
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I was in yosemite between olmstead point, the valley, up yosemite creek
to ten lakes pass and there were NO or very few mosquitos anywhere, even
when we were near snow, in snowmelt, meadows, etc...
On 8/9/2011 11:21 AM, Susan Alcorn wrote:
> Anyone near Yosemite? How are the mosquitoes? Thanks for any reports.
> Susan Alcorn
>
> http://www.examiner.com/hiking-in-san-francisco/susan-alcorn
> Publishers of two award-winning books: Camino Chronicle: Walking to Santiago and We're in the Mountains Not over the Hill: Tales and Tips from Seasoned Women Backpackers.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 17:33:49 GMT
From: "rickandurs at juno.com" <rickandurs at juno.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mosquitoes?
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I just did a week long trip through Northern Yosemite along the PCT to Tuolumne Meadows. The mosquitoes in some areas were epic. Even 100% Deet did not do much to deter them. But, they were very small ones and the bites did not seem to have much effect. Some areas were worse than others. They were worse in the wet areas or more forested areas. Open breezy areas were a bit better. Things are slowly drying out so the bugs should improve. We had head net with us which were really nice to have.
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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:21:11 -0700 (PDT)
Anyone near Yosemite? How are the mosquitoes? Thanks for any reports.
Susan Alcorn
http://www.examiner.com/hiking-in-san-francisco/susan-alcorn
Publishers of two award-winning books: Camino Chronicle: Walking to Santiago and We're in the Mountains Not over the Hill: Tales and Tips from Seasoned Women Backpackers.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 11:26:38 -0700
From: Austin Williams <austinwilliams123 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT in 60 days
To: Deems <losthiker at sisqtel.net>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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That's awesome.
Austin Williams
www.PlanYourHike.com <http://www.planyourhike.com/>
Info on PCT Gear, Resupply Points, Maps, Thru hiking Movies, etc.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Deems <losthiker at sisqtel.net> wrote:
> Here's a motivated sobo hiker that will start Aug 25 with a 60 day goal to
> reach Mexico. He'll zoom by me somewhere in Glacier Peak Wilderness.
> http://www.runwhileyoucan.org/
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 22:28:05 -0700
From: "Rick Tidball" <ricktidball at comcast.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Has anyone hiked Section K (Stevens Pass to Rainy
Pass) in Washington?
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Has anyone hiked Section K (Stevens Pass to Rainy Pass) in Washington this
year? I am planning to hike this section starting on August 14, and would
appreciate information on snow conditions.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 06:25:19 -0700
From: "Ted Sundin" <sunt at grrtech.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Hiking the PCT coming week
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What's the snowpack like section D from 138 north to Willamette pass? Is it
better to take the Old Oregon Skyline trial by Windigo Pass. What's the
mosquito situation like? Ted
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:01:49 -0700
From: Stephen Clark <rowriver at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Snow Conditions California Cascades
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Snow in the California Cascades is still plentiful. The following photos of
Lassen Volcanic National Park (pic 1) trail to the peak (pic 2) Emerald Lake
(pic 3) Lassen Peak and Mt. Shasta (pic 4) were taken on July 29....
Tried to do Lassen peak but the trail was closed a mile and a half from the
parking lot.
Quackers
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 12:45:05 -0700
From: "Keith Kurko" <kwkurko at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Has anyone hiked Section K (Stevens Pass to Rainy
Pass) in Washington?
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Hi Rick,
I have not hiked it, but I plan to do some hiking on parts of that section
about one week after you start. I have been closely monitoring trip reports
nearby from the Washington Trails Association website.
It appears that there is still a fair amount of snow on shaded north and
east slopes above 5500 feet or so, and in some cases lower.
Further to the west of the crest, it has been announced that the road to
Artist Point by Mt Baker will not open this year because of the deep snow.
While Mt. Baker is famous for getting huge snow totals, in the last 30 years
I don't ever recall that road not opening during summer.
In addition to the above average snow pack, we having an unusually cool
summer and the melt seems to be proceeding more slowly than usual.
Keith
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To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: [pct-l] Has anyone hiked Section K (Stevens Pass to Rainy Pass) in
Washington?
Has anyone hiked Section K (Stevens Pass to Rainy Pass) in Washington this
year? I am planning to hike this section starting on August 14, and would
appreciate information on snow conditions.
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 13:12:18 -0700
From: Douglas Tow <douglastow at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Section R water and snow
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Good afternoon!
My brother and I just finished Section R on Sunday, 8-7-11. All guidebook
and Halfmile water sources are flowing. Lookout Spring about 6 miles north
from Seiad Valley is very slow, about a liter every 3-5 minutes, and you
will need water there. Sheep Camp spring is gushing out of the pipe, now my
favorite water source. Others said that this water does not need treatment,
but I cannot say. I did not treat it. As you get into the 5 miles before
Mt. Ashland Inn, water is every quarter mile or so - it seemed to be
everywhere.
There is a nice picnic table and water spigot literally a few steps south of
Mt. Ashland Inn specifically for PCT hikers.
One piece of snow near Siskyou Gap was problematic. The trail just stops
into a very straight, uphill snow structure with a steep dropoff on the
left. The snow fools you into thinking that it sits right on the trail as
you go up - it doesn't!. We followed fresh footsteps up the snow, but those
steps diverted right onto the hillside due to tricky and perhaps perilous
walking conditions on the snow. We then discovered that the trial actually
turns downhill to the left of the snow structure, and we had to bushwhack
downhill to it on a very steep, loose material-laden hillside. Others might
try going left of the snow just as the trail meets it. Keep looking at your
maps and GPS.
Doug
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 13:19:06 -0700
From: Douglas Tow <douglastow at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Section R just for fun
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Good afternoon again!
Having just gotten off Section R as a section hike, I would like to give
just a highlight and a lowlight. The highlight, aside from the pleasure of
hiking with my brother, was the stunning abundance of wildflowers, with the
loudest sound typically the thousands of bumblebees working.
The lowlight was what I will call the Most Inequitable Moment on Section R.
It was running across a huge fresh piece of watermelon hanging right across
the trail - with a sign that said "For Sourdough." Criminally unfair.
Doug
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 13:24:48 -0700
From: Scott Williams <baidarker at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mosquitoes?
To: "rickandurs at juno.com" <rickandurs at juno.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, backpack45 at yahoo.com
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Several friends who just hiked from TM to Sonora Pass told me this morning
that they are worse than usual. The description as "epic" above probably
covers it. I was in TM and the Valley last week and noticed fewer than
usual. So it matters how close to the standing water and recent snow melt
you are.
Shroomer
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:33 AM, rickandurs at juno.com <rickandurs at juno.com>wrote:
>
> I just did a week long trip through Northern Yosemite along the PCT to
> Tuolumne Meadows. The mosquitoes in some areas were epic. Even 100% Deet
> did not do much to deter them. But, they were very small ones and the bites
> did not seem to have much effect. Some areas were worse than others. They
> were worse in the wet areas or more forested areas. Open breezy areas were
> a bit better. Things are slowly drying out so the bugs should improve. We
> had head net with us which were really nice to have.
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Susan Alcorn <backpack45 at yahoo.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Mosquitoes?
> Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:21:11 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Anyone near Yosemite? How are the mosquitoes? Thanks for any reports.
> Susan Alcorn
>
> http://www.examiner.com/hiking-in-san-francisco/susan-alcorn
> Publishers of two award-winning books: Camino Chronicle: Walking to
> Santiago and We're in the Mountains Not over the Hill: Tales and Tips from
> Seasoned Women Backpackers.
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 13:40:46 -0700
From: Madeline Yacoe <myacoe at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] My experience in the Sierras
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Hi fellow hikers,
Mountain Ned asked me to post about my experience hiking through the
Sierras, to help the hikers who still have yet to do the JMT/Central
California section.
I left Kennedy Meadows June 10 and finished at Echo Pass July 18. There was
a lot of snow and it was slow going (we did 10-15 miles per day), but we
went straight through and took a lot of zeroes along the way (3 in Bishop, 4
in Mammoth, plus 3 days to finish the JMT to Yosemite Valley).
It's been several weeks since I was through, so there is undoubtedly less
snow now than there was for me, but I will tell you what I experienced.
We had more or less solid snow from one day north of Kennedy Meadows until
Sonora Pass. It would get patchy and/or dry at lower elevations, and there
were several days when we walked entirely on snow. We even slept on snow one
night, for lack of a dry patch. This was exhausting and would have been
frustrating if we didn't keep a positive outlook and think of it as a fun
challenge.
Ice axes and spikes were absolutely necessary for us, as was GPS and good
map-and-compass skills. I really liked having gaiters to keep the icy snow
from scraping my legs when I postholed. The morning was usually firm and we
used spikes. By afternoon, the snow was slushy and we would posthole. We
tried to go up the passes in the firm morning snow and glissade down the
backside in the afternoon slush (not on the ice!!).
River crossings were big, but doable. They should be significantly mellower
now that so much snow has melted off. Some people ran into trouble crossing
at some of the official trail crossings, but if you aren't in too much of a
hurry and look upstream you should be able to find a safe spot. I am tiny
-only 5'0" and 120 pounds- and I was able to cross Return, Mono, Spiller,
Piute, Kerrick, and Falls creeks by myself without much trouble (I crossed
with a partner/group for some others). If I can do the crossings, so can
you. Just take the time to look upstream for a calm spot or a log bridge.
Plan for slow miles and bring plenty of food. We burned a lot of calories.
Some groups left Kennedy Meadows intending to go straight through to VVR,
but from what I saw, it seemed like most groups came out at Kearsarge Pass
and resupplied in Independence/Bishop because they ate their food faster
than they planned. We planned to do one pass a day, which was a realistic
pace for June. Again, you will probably be faster with less snow and milder
rivers, but that worked for us.
The bottom line is, the Sierras are gorgeous. Enjoy them. We saw a few
groups who weren't enjoying themselves and it seemed like they were pushing
themselves too hard. If you bring enough food and take your time, you will
probably have a lot more fun. Love it and take lots of pictures!
Madeline "12 Ounce" Yacoe
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 15:06:51 -0700
From: PCT List <pctlist at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Hiking the PCT coming week
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Here's an update from Rhino for the Mt Thielsen/Tipsoo Peak area
that's just a few hours old Check back this evening for an update. A
snow bridge covers Thielsen Creek:
http://postholer.com/journal/viewJournal.php?entry_id=25695
Here's the data book for that section:
http://postholer.com/databook/index.php?sec=dd
...and the google mytopo map:
http://postholer.com/gmap/gmap.php?lat=43.190159&lon=-122.052269&zoom=12&vw=2
-postholer
>>>>
What's the snowpack like section D from 138 north to Willamette pass? Is it
better to take the Old Oregon Skyline trial by Windigo Pass. What's the
mosquito situation like? Ted
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 16:04:21 -0700
From: PCT List <pctlist at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Update: PCT digitized base map project
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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The PCT digitized base maps have been updated. The project is now
winding down to a October release. Please continue to send your
suggestions! Thanks!
CA section B, 1:40,000 scale, 80' contour interval:
http://postholer.com/digi/B1.png
http://postholer.com/digi/B2.png
http://postholer.com/digi/B3.png
http://postholer.com/digi/B4.png
http://postholer.com/digi/B5.png
http://postholer.com/digi/B6.png
http://postholer.com/digi/B7.png
http://postholer.com/digi/B8.png
Various, 1:24,000 scale, 40' contour interval:
http://postholer.com/digi/SpectacleLake_WA.png
http://postholer.com/digi/FireCrkPass_WA.png
http://postholer.com/digi/MtHood_OR.png
http://postholer.com/digi/BadenPowell_CA.png
http://postholer.com/digi/1000IslandLake_CA.png
http://postholer.com/digi/BrownMtn_OR.png
http://postholer.com/digi/LakeMorena_CA.png
http://postholer.com/digi/MtLaguna_CA.png
http://postholer.com/digi/SnowCyn_CA.png
http://postholer.com/digi/LakeSilverwood_CA.png
http://postholer.com/digi/McKenziePass_OR.png
http://postholer.com/digi/3FingerJack_OR.png
-postholer
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 17:46:40 -0700
From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Minimal shoes
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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There's a guy who is planning to trail run a segment of the Colorado
Trail wearing huarache running sandals (and a kilt). I am interested
to hear how it works out.
http://www.mindyourheadcoop.org/blog/?p=1317
On Aug 9, 2011, at 10:00 AM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
> Marcia and I are both wearing New Balance Minimus trail runners. So
> far only
> day hikes, but we both love them. We plan to use them in Utah and
> Arizona
> later this summer.
>
> Ken
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 19:12:36 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)
From: "hiker" <pct-hiker at att.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Sonora update
To: <Pct-L at backcountry.net>
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Thank you all for your responses. Sounds like we should do just fine with
our section hike from Sonora Pass to Echo Lake. Really looking forward to
getting out there next week.
Trainman
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 21:07:22 -0700
From: <ned at mountaineducation.org>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail conditions - Sonora Pass
To: "Jim & Jane Moody" <moodyjj at comcast.net>, "hiker"
<pct-hiker at att.net>
Cc: Pct-L at backcountry.net
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I second that!
"Just remember, Be Careful out there!"
Ned Tibbits, Director
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To: "hiker" <pct-hiker at att.net>
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Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail conditions - Sonora Pass
>
>
> My info is out of date, but ... I left SP on 1 July and got to Echo on 5
> July. Lots of snow and lost trail. If I had taken a gps in addition to my
> map and compass, I'd have moved a lot f aster and with less frustration.
>
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> Mango
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
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> To: Pct-L at backcountry.net
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 7:44:37 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] Trail conditions - Sonora Pass
>
> Once again I asking if anyone has current trail conditions from Sonora
> Pass
> to Echo Lake. We're going in there next Tuesday 8/16 and we're not looking
> for snow. Help please if you know.
> Thanks,
> Trainman
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 21:36:58 -0700
From: Tom Grundy <caver456 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking the PCT coming week
To: Ted Sundin <sunt at grrtech.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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My sweetie is up hiking that section right now, called earlier today
by cell from the slopes of Thielsen. Heavy mosquitoes, and a decent
bit of snow causing some slow-down but not much. Got a call again
tonight: the snow north of Thielsen was 'pretty gnarly' in her words
and maybe more than she wants to be doing, so she's thinking about
changing plans depending on conditions tomorrow.
If anyone knows about conditions in that area - towards Shelter Cover
- and also Mt Hood as she's considering jumping up to Olallie then
continuing northbound if at all possible - please chime in and I'll
relay the info by cell. Technology... often bad, occasionally real
good... even though lots of folks would consider this 'cheating'.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Ted Sundin <sunt at grrtech.com> wrote:
> What's the snowpack like section D from 138 north to Willamette pass? Is it
> better to take the Old Oregon Skyline trial by Windigo Pass. What's the
> mosquito situation like? Ted
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 21:38:58 -0700
From: Tom Grundy <caver456 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking the PCT coming week
To: Ted Sundin <sunt at grrtech.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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PS every opinion is different: she's a section hiker, spent 5 days on
the snow a few years ago in the Sierra - so read it as you will. Any
reports would be a great help. Thanks!
-Tom
Nevada City CA
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Tom Grundy <caver456 at gmail.com> wrote:
> My sweetie is up hiking that section right now, called earlier today
> by cell from the slopes of Thielsen. ?Heavy mosquitoes, and a decent
> bit of snow causing some slow-down but not much. ?Got a call again
> tonight: the snow north of Thielsen was 'pretty gnarly' in her words
> and maybe more than she wants to be doing, so she's thinking about
> changing plans depending on conditions tomorrow.
>
> If anyone knows about conditions in that area - towards Shelter Cover
> - and also Mt Hood as she's considering jumping up to Olallie then
> continuing northbound if at all possible - please chime in and I'll
> relay the info by cell. ?Technology... often bad, occasionally real
> good... even though lots of folks would consider this 'cheating'.
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Ted Sundin <sunt at grrtech.com> wrote:
>> What's the snowpack like section D from 138 north to Willamette pass? Is it
>> better to take the Old Oregon Skyline trial by Windigo Pass. What's the
>> mosquito situation like? Ted
>>
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 22:29:36 -0700
From: Tom Grundy <caver456 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Hiking the PCT coming week
To: Ted Sundin <sunt at grrtech.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Also, this from pcta.org:
8/9/2011 - Heads up to hikers - there is still considerable snow pack
around the back side of mt. Thielsen and diamond mountain. It was
extremely trick to stay on trail. Gps and yak track footgear would be
necessary. Advise all coming this way to take the oregon skyline trail
alternate routes by diamond lake and crescent lakes up to shelter
cove, for at least the next week or so. Reported 8/8/11.
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Tom Grundy <caver456 at gmail.com> wrote:
> PS every opinion is different: she's a section hiker, spent 5 days on
> the snow a few years ago in the Sierra - so read it as you will. ?Any
> reports would be a great help. ?Thanks!
> -Tom
> Nevada City CA
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Tom Grundy <caver456 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> My sweetie is up hiking that section right now, called earlier today
>> by cell from the slopes of Thielsen. ?Heavy mosquitoes, and a decent
>> bit of snow causing some slow-down but not much. ?Got a call again
>> tonight: the snow north of Thielsen was 'pretty gnarly' in her words
>> and maybe more than she wants to be doing, so she's thinking about
>> changing plans depending on conditions tomorrow.
>>
>> If anyone knows about conditions in that area - towards Shelter Cover
>> - and also Mt Hood as she's considering jumping up to Olallie then
>> continuing northbound if at all possible - please chime in and I'll
>> relay the info by cell. ?Technology... often bad, occasionally real
>> good... even though lots of folks would consider this 'cheating'.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 6:25 AM, Ted Sundin <sunt at grrtech.com> wrote:
>>> What's the snowpack like section D from 138 north to Willamette pass? Is it
>>> better to take the Old Oregon Skyline trial by Windigo Pass. What's the
>>> mosquito situation like? Ted
>>>
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 06:38:06 -0400
From: nina white <nina.white at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT Question
To: "Jim & Jane Moody" <moodyjj at comcast.net>
Cc: Cameron Szakall <cszakall at hotmail.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>
> Before you send a check, you might look at the Six Moons Design Skyscape
> X. Looks intriguing, and only 16 oz, without stakes.
>
For the same price (and quite a price it is....), you can go _even_
lighter-- 14.2 oz with bug protection-- using Mountain Laurel Designs
Cricket Tent with Cuben Fiber option.
Nina
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Cameron Szakall" <cszakall at hotmail.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2011 6:57:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] PCT Question
>
> Thank you for all of your responses. I have decided to go with the Tarptent
> Sublite! I read that Henry Shires has not yet recommended it for a
> thru-hike, but I think if I have problems with durability I will mail it
> home after the first month or so. Sublite: 19 Oz! Can't beat that for a
> sealed tarp with bathtub floor and bug netting!!!
> Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
> Envoy? sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r?seau de Bell.
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:29:50 +0000
From: "Cameron Szakall " <cszakall at hotmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Tarptent Sublite
To: "pct-l at backcountry.net " <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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Has anyone had any experience with the tarptent sublite? I have placed my order already, and they seem to be back ordered until late August. I am a little skeptical about their durability for a thru-hike. If anyone has, or knows someone who has used this tent, can you please tell me any interesting info that you may have.
Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
Envoy? sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r?seau de Bell.
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 09:38:04 -0400
From: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Tarptent Sublite
To: "Cameron Szakall " <cszakall at hotmail.com>, <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I have a Sublite Sil. Unfortunately I've only used it a few times, and
never in bad weather, so can't help you too much. But having said that,
I've been happy with how it sets up, and there is plenty of room for me and
my gear. As far as durability goes, I try to be careful about where I set
it up, and I use a partial ground cover under it for extra protection.
So far, with my limited use, I'm happy with it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cameron Szakall " <cszakall at hotmail.com>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:34 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Tarptent Sublite
Has anyone had any experience with the tarptent sublite? I have placed my
order already, and they seem to be back ordered until late August. I am a
little skeptical about their durability for a thru-hike. If anyone has, or
knows someone who has used this tent, can you please tell me any interesting
info that you may have.
Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
Envoy? sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r?seau de Bell.
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 07:53:45 -0700
From: <ned at mountaineducation.org>
Subject: [pct-l] PLBs, SPOT, and SATs
To: "PCT MailingList" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Cc: johnmuirtrail at yahoogroups.com
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In our SAR circles, I came across some interesting comments about the effectiveness of using SPOTs, PLBs, and SAT devices, if anyone is interested:
http://www.wildsnow.com/5602/rescue-beacon-issues/
http://www.wildsnow.com/5542/alaska-nols-bear-attack/
http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/anatomy-alaska-bear-mauling-rescue
(we still always carry a SAT phone and a Sheriff's 2-way radio)
"Just remember, Be Careful out there!"
Ned Tibbits, Director
Mountain Education
South Lake Tahoe, Ca. 96150
P: 888-996-8333
F: 530-541-1456
C: 530-721-1551
http://www.mountaineducation.org
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