[pct-l] ice axe vs pole self arresting

[Gary Swing]

Thanks, Mango.
 
I own three old, solid ice axes that I've used for mountaineering in Colorado, but they're very heavy --about twice the weight of the Whippet. I don't really want to carry any of them on the PCT. I looked at lighter weight ice axes, but the cost was too high. Last week, the Anchorage REI had a 1/2 off clearance sale on the Whippet, so we're having them send one to us at the Denver store.
 
Cheers,
 
Gary Swing
"Half Fast"

--- On Wed, 4/20/11, Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net> wrote:


From: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] ice axe vs pole self arresting
To: "Gary Swing" <homelessontherange at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 2:23 PM



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Mtn Ned uses and endorses the Whippet for dual purposes.  Most hikers use full ice axe instead.
 
Mango
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Swing" <homelessontherange at yahoo.com>
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:48:16 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] ice axe vs pole self arresting

My employer is getting me a Black Diamond Whippet self-arrest pole with an ice axe head as a PCT departure gift. See: http://www.backcountry.com/black-diamond-whippet-self-arrest-ski-pole
 
I haven't used one of these before, but I thought it might be a reasonable piece of "dual use" gear in California to have an ice axe/ski pole. I would switch it out for a regular trekking pole after the Sierra Nevadas.
 
I saw a product review that said "Whippet Real Good." I also looked up the Devo music video, but I didn't see the self arrest pole in Devo's video.
 
Cheers,
 
"Half Fast"

--- On Wed, 4/20/11, Brian Miracle <bmiracle2 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Brian Miracle <bmiracle2 at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] ice axe vs pole self arresting
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Wednesday, April 20, 2011, 9:30 AM


I just wanted some opinions on this.  I found a  mountaineering book online
that argues for the case that poles are better for self arresting and
general mountain travel if the proper technique is used. It also has
pictures of the different techniques as well

http://books.google.com/books?id=3hgJ0gvwIIIC&pg=PA192&lpg=PA192&dq=self+arrest++trekking+pole&source=bl&ots=xMXqWPl4Qq&sig=3K3b_19NBJQdIi5TsACGdpIVolk&hl=en&ei=j_euTdDbCIrksQOZ5ZWSAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CFQQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=self%20arrest%20%20trekking%20pole&f=false

check it out and it talks of this around pg 200.
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