[pct-l] Permethrin

[Russell Garner]

In answer to your question as to who some of the testers are (see below from
Military.com):


Start quote:

Permethrin Factory-Treated Combat Uniforms
 
What is it? 

In July 2010, the Army began issuing factory-permethrin-treated,
flame-resistant, combat uniforms to all deploying Soldiers. Permethrin is a
safe, synthetic insect repellent that mimics natural compounds found in
chrysanthemum flowers. It is widely used in the commercial market to treat
scabies and lice, and commonly used to treat commercially-sold hiking and
hunting gear manufactured by L.L. Bean, REI, and other similar companies.
The factory treatment has been tested to ensure the insect protection is
effective for the life of the uniform. 

What has the Army done? 

The Army Public Health Command has worked with the Environmental Protection
Agency and the United State Department of Agriculture to study the effects
of permethrin and have found it to be quite harmless when properly applied
to clothing. Research confirms it is safe to use with both children and
pregnant or nursing women. The low dosage used in the factory treatment is
very unlikely to cause skin irritation. Independent studies conducted by the
National Academy of Science-Committee on Toxicology, the Food and Drug
Administration, and the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization all
concluded that Soldiers wearing permethrin-treated clothing are unlikely to
experience adverse health effects. 

These factory-permethrin-treated, flame-resistant, combat uniforms are a
form of body armor - protecting Soldiers from possible life-threatening
illnesses such as Lyme disease, malaria, Crimean-Congo Hemorrhagic Fever,
dengue, Leishmaniasis, and West Nile virus. The benefits of wearing a
factory-permethrin-treated combat uniform far outweigh the minimal risks.

End quote.

Please note that it includes those groups that drug companies and lawyers
are zealous about excluding for lawsuit reasons.

Russ Garner
 


-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [pct-l] Permethrin

I would like to share that I just got back from a showing of the Vanishing
Bees, in which the producer highlighted a couple of things:

1) the EPA doesn't do its own testing.
2) It instead relies upon research studies *conducted by the companies
manufacturing the chemicals in question.*
3) There is reason to believe that two systemic pesticides made by Bayer are
largely to blame for "Colony Collapse Disorder" - and there's research
that's been done in Europe substantiating this. However, this last bit of
information that is, perhaps, beyond the scope of this particular community
:-)

My point in posting this is that just because the EPA *says* something is
safe doesn't mean that I will blindly trust them. Who actually did the
research saying that permethrin is safe?




On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Ken Murray <kmurray at pol.net> wrote:

> Permethrin borders on a miraculous product.
>
> I've used it for about 5 years now.  If you don't buy the Ex-Officio 
> pre-treated, and treat your own, it is important to SATURATE the fabric.
>  You cannot tell that the product is there.
>
> EPA testing is that it is very safe, unless you do loony things 
> (swallow, bathe).
>
> It is applied to clothing, not to your skin.
>
> When used in combination with DEET, it is effective in warding off 
> bugs in the worst conditions.  However, I find that when I'm wearing 
> Permethrin laced clothing, I need to use about 90% less DEET.  It is a 
> real blessing when I'm doing trailwork and very sweaty, where applying 
> DEET would be very unpleasant.
>
> I find it lasts me a full season, without reapplication.
>
> Don't leave home without it.
>
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