[pct-l] Deep creek closure... why?

[David Ellzey]

Actually packrafts do well in whitewater but it's not really practical regardless just fun to talk about.

Here's another idea, get someone to set up a float tube rental at Deep Creek bridge and a tube return at Mojave dam!

BigToe

From: Ate Tuna [mailto:atetuna at gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 10:57 PM
To: David Ellzey
Cc: Pct-L at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Deep creek closure... why?

I would love it if this were feasible. I wouldn't use a packraft though.  I don't believe it would be maneuverable enough to navigate successfully in those fast waters and it could be a serious problem if there were any downed trees.  If hypothermia wasn't an issue, I would prefer to tread water down the river floating along with my pack in a drybag.  For extra buoyancy, swap out the down jacket for a Klymit inflatable vest that would double for a life preserver.

...and a look at the satellite images makes it look like there are plenty of rapids and maybe a few hairy looking falls as well.  Even if I could survive that, which is unlikely, I'm sure I'd run out of adrenaline long before the exit point.
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 9:29 AM, David Ellzey <david at xpletive.com<mailto:david at xpletive.com>> wrote:
You know, this would be an awesome place to use a Alpacka Scout packraft. You should be able to legally float this section from the big Deep Creek bridge all the way to the Mojave Dam.

It would be a total pain in the ass to pick up in Big Bear, haul the extra 4lbs of boat and paddle up to the bridge then from the dam to Wrightwood only to ship home.

It would be really expensive too, probably around $600 in gear plus those extra shipping fees.

However, it would also be the most epic trail detour ever.

BigToe

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From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net<mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net<mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net>] On Behalf Of Amanda L Silvestri
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2011 9:05 PM
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Subject: [pct-l] Deep creek closure... why?

There are two landslides and a bridge that is out in the canyon.  I stopped in at the Lake Arrowhead Ranger District Offices where I was shown an e-mail from the crew leader that went out there.  It said one of the slides is too large for a crew with hand tools to do anything about and that it would be necessary to bring in heavy equipment.  Not having been to the slide, I don't know how difficult or even safe it would be to traverse it.

However, I have a book of trails in the San Bernardino Mountains and it indicates a trail leading off the detour to the hot springs.  It is six miles each way plus the elevation loss and gain of several hundred feet.  The trail is supposed to branch off of 3N34 just south of Willow Creek (the biggest one you will cross on the detour) and follows it down to the canyon.  The person at the information desk was not familiar with this trail and does not believed to be maintained.

However, she then told me about another trail that also branches off of the detour from HWY 73 a couple of miles after you join it from 3N34.  This trail (which is not in my trail book) is before the highway closure and follows Kenley Creek.  It also would be about six miles each way with a substantial climb down and again back up.

The Hot Springs can also be accessed from the other side of the canyon via the Bowen Ranch but this would require a car shuttle.

One thing you might want to keep in mind, is as that section is closed, if you should hike it anyway and slip, fall and become injured down there, there won't other hikers, a ranger or anyone else to go for help.  As it is a deep canyon there is no cell service in there either.  Just something to include in you deliberations.

Shepherd
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