[pct-l] If not alcohol (stove), then what?

[ned at mountaineducation.org]

Regarding different types of stoves and their use at altitudes and 
temperatures along the Crest,

we have used most all white gas and mixed gas stoves in the snow to 
temperatures down to zero and at altitudes averaging 12,000 and haven't had 
a problem since mixed fuel for altitude arrived in stores.

On our last trip, we tested both the newer Jetboil and MSR Reactor stoves. 
I've been a Jetboil fan since it was created, but I have to say the Reactor 
is amazing! Truly boiled a liter of water in a snowstorm at the base of 
Forester in three minutes and simmers, too. May be heavier, though. Huge 
burner. Good in the wind.



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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeffrey Haas" <coopermacjill at gmail.com>
To: <halfmile at pctmap.net>
Cc: "greg mushial" <gmushial at gmdr.com>; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] If not alcohol (stove), then what?


> I've used my MSR Pocket Rocket for years and love it.  I'm a huge fan of 
> it.  It uses the fuel canisters and if you cook just dinner, you can get 
> several weeks out of a canister.  You also have the ability to alter the 
> flame (simmer per say), which helps on fuel.
>
> I used to have a same MSR as you're talking about and only use it in 
> winter (due to weight).  I've used the pocket rocket in colder temps and 
> it will work below freezing.  While it's not as efficient and you may need 
> to warm up the fuel with your lighter, it does work.  This however is not 
> a true winter stove.
> On Sep 15, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Halfmile wrote:
>
>> Jetboil has some new stoves coming out in a few months that looks
>> interesting, including a 9 ounce titanium version.
>>
>> http://www.dailyhiker.com/news/new-stoves-from-jetboil-for-spring-2011/
>>
>> -Halfmile
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:35 AM, greg mushial <gmushial at gmdr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If one decides against an alcohol stove (for whatever reason), then 
>>> what's
>>> the next choice (for a thru)? I've been using one of MSRs 
>>> "international"
>>> "shaker" stoves for years (decades) - international in that it'll burn
>>> about
>>> anything, shaker in that one can clean the jet by simply shaking the
>>> stove...  I like it a lot, especially in that in thousands of hours of 
>>> use,
>>> has never failed me, not a once...  but it's way too heavy for a thru.
>>> What's the next choice per the collective wisdom of the list? A plastic
>>> fuel
>>> bottle (?) and a (???). This is also presuming that
>>> unleadedgas/whitegas/etc
>>> is as available along the trail as alcohol, if not more so. Or does 
>>> alcohol
>>> have the advantage of being shippable in a resupply box (is it??)?
>>> TIA - TheDuck
>>>
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