[pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 34, Issue 75
Terry Williams
tennyson_1 at hotmail.com
Sun Oct 24 11:56:26 CDT 2010
In regards to Jim Keener, it was not the Giants, it was the Oakland A's.
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> 1. Re: hiking shirts (Jim & Jane Moody)
> 2. Re: 80 lbs (Yoshihiro Murakami)
> 3. giardia/water (Janet Grossman)
> 4. Re: GIANTS WIN PENNANT! (Joseph Anderson)
> 5. Re: hiking shirts (Joseph Anderson)
> 6. Re: hiking shirts (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
> 7. Re: Giardia / Polio (Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes)
> 8. Re: GIANTS WIN PENNANT! (Jim Keener ( J J ))
> 9. Re: GIANTS WIN PENNANT! (James F. Miller)
> 10. Re: Pct-L Digest, Vol 34, Issue 74 (greg mushial)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:35:17 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] hiking shirts
> To: Albach <ralbach at austin.rr.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I used an Ex Officio nylon long-sleeve this year.? Sleeves roll up and can be buttoned to stay up at the elbows.? Has velcro-secured breast pockets, one of which has a second pocket that zips?closed (my main criteria for?a hiking shirt).? Vented under arms and across shoulders.? Very nice but 'spensive.
>
>
>
> Mango
>
>
>
> ?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Albach" <ralbach at austin.rr.com>
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 11:19:39 PM
> Subject: [pct-l] hiking shirts
>
> Hello,
>
> I'm thinking of investing in a hiking shirt but thought to seek out some
> suggestions. I've done sections A through C (May-June) in a combination
> of white long sleeve nike and rei shirts - breathable synthetics - one
> with a ?partial zipper/ collar - the other without zipper /collar.
>
> I'm thinking of getting a looser shirt with side vents, back vents, and
> possibly vents under the front pockets. I'd like the sleeves to roll up
> if desired and front buttons the entire length. My wife and kids have
> these equivalents but am having trouble finding exactly this for a male.
>
> I've seen the REI Sahara Tech Shirt and it looks promising BUT review
> suggests it fits small. I'm a 33 arm length 16 inch neck w a 45 in chest
> and really get tired of busting buttons or having the sleeves extending
> inches past my wrists.
>
> The Rail Rider looks good but expensive as well. Patagonia's stuff
> didn't really fit the check list.
>
> Anybody else have a favorite suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Robert
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:34:27 +0900
> From: Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] 80 lbs
> To: ned at mountaineducation.org, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Ned may be a very strong man. I am not so strong. My maximal weight
> for hiking may be 30 Kg (60 pounds), so I always thinking how to carry
> heavy load easily as much as possible. In ancient times, JanSports
> produced "phantom" backpack, which has the projection of joints at the
> both side of waits.
>
> My favorite backpack Mountainhardware Solitude began to break, so I
> bought REI XT 85. This backpack is well constructed, but when I carry
> 23 Kg load, I feel fatigue slightly in the muscle of the waist, so I
> decided to remodel .
>
> In short, I had reinforced the waist belt with the 3mm aluminum plate.
> The result is very good. All the weights are put on the waist.
>
> My site is written in Japanese. Please see the photos only.
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/completewalker/equipments/backpack/rei-xt85
>
> The first two photos are re-modeled figure.
> The following six photos are the production steps.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Sincerely
> --------------- --------------------------------------
> Hiro? ? ( Yoshihiro Murakami )
> Blogs http://completewalker.blogspot.com/
> Photo http://picasaweb.google.co.jp/CompleteWalker/
> Backpacking for 30 years in Japan
> 2009 JMT, the first America.
> 2010 JMT, the second America.
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:34:06 -0700
> From: Janet Grossman <janetgr at Cableone.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] giardia/water
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I hiked from Hwy 58 to Kennedy Meadows in September 2009, was diagnosed
> (based on stool sample) with giardia about a month and a half later
> after a month of feeling generally not right, but not really sick. I
> used Aqua Mira (drops) to treat all water except that I used from Mary's
> 2 water caches, and the water I took from the hose at Kennedy Meadows
> Store. I hugely appreciated the existence of the caches and the hose.
> However, I would certainly recommend that other hikers also purify water
> from these 2 sources.
> Janet
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:44:37 -0700
> From: Joseph Anderson <joedaddy44 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] GIANTS WIN PENNANT!
> To: "Jim Keener ( J J )" <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
> Cc: PCT-L MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> VERY off topic Jim. It's true, the Giants won the LCS, but just
> remeber what happened last time the Giants made the Series. God sent
> an earthquake to show his Divine displeasure! I'm happy that all you
> SF fans finally have something to cheer about, but don't go making any
> big bets! You can be sure that Texas will be tougher than Philly was.
> So, congratulations to all you SF fans out there. I'm happy for you.
> !!!! GO TEXAS !!!!
> Love, Joe
>
> On 10/23/10, Jim Keener ( J J ) <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com> wrote:
> > Sorry, Brick.
> >
> > Jim Keener ( J J )
> > http://postholer.com/jj
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:48:21 -0700
> From: Joseph Anderson <joedaddy44 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] hiking shirts
> To: "Jim & Jane Moody" <moodyjj at comcast.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net, Albach <ralbach at austin.rr.com>
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> Casa de Luna recommends a Hawaiian style lounge shirt. Or a Casa de
> Luna tie-dye tee. Or BOTH!!
> Happy Trails!
>
> On 10/24/10, Jim & Jane Moody <moodyjj at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I used an Ex Officio nylon long-sleeve this year.? Sleeves roll up and can
> > be buttoned to stay up at the elbows.? Has velcro-secured breast pockets,
> > one of which has a second pocket that zips?closed (my main criteria for?a
> > hiking shirt).? Vented under arms and across shoulders.? Very nice but
> > 'spensive.
> >
> >
> >
> > Mango
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Albach" <ralbach at austin.rr.com>
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 11:19:39 PM
> > Subject: [pct-l] hiking shirts
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm thinking of investing in a hiking shirt but thought to seek out some
> > suggestions. I've done sections A through C (May-June) in a combination
> > of white long sleeve nike and rei shirts - breathable synthetics - one
> > with a ?partial zipper/ collar - the other without zipper /collar.
> >
> > I'm thinking of getting a looser shirt with side vents, back vents, and
> > possibly vents under the front pockets. I'd like the sleeves to roll up
> > if desired and front buttons the entire length. My wife and kids have
> > these equivalents but am having trouble finding exactly this for a male.
> >
> > I've seen the REI Sahara Tech Shirt and it looks promising BUT review
> > suggests it fits small. I'm a 33 arm length 16 inch neck w a 45 in chest
> > and really get tired of busting buttons or having the sleeves extending
> > inches past my wrists.
> >
> > The Rail Rider looks good but expensive as well. Patagonia's stuff
> > didn't really fit the check list.
> >
> > Anybody else have a favorite suggestion?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Robert
> > _______________________________________________
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>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 07:55:53 -0700
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] hiking shirts
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Fashion changes too much to keep up with it. If after all your
> searching you still have no luck, you might try combing the thrift
> stores. I've found some really nice shirts there, sometimes brand new
> with the tags still on.
>
> If you have a sewing machine, you may even consider adding the
> features you want. I met a woman on the trail last year who did just
> that. She ingeniously added mesh all down the sleeves and side-seams
> and on the back panel of a pull-over-style shirt. She looked so cool
> and comfortable I decided to try it myself. It really wasn't that
> hard to do.
>
> Whatever shirt you choose, be forewarned that certain backpacks can
> stain your shirt black. Gossamer Gear packs are one of them. I didn't
> have a Gossamer Gear pack in 2008 and my hiking shirt is still
> wearable. I had a Gossamer Gear pack in 2009 and my nice light yellow
> Rail Riders shirt is completely ruined.
>
> On Oct 23, 2010, at 8:43 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm thinking of investing in a hiking shirt but thought to seek out
> > some
> > suggestions. I've done sections A through C (May-June) in a
> > combination
> > of white long sleeve nike and rei shirts - breathable synthetics - one
> > with a partial zipper/ collar - the other without zipper /collar.
> >
> > I'm thinking of getting a looser shirt with side vents, back vents,
> > and
> > possibly vents under the front pockets. I'd like the sleeves to
> > roll up
> > if desired and front buttons the entire length. My wife and kids have
> > these equivalents but am having trouble finding exactly this for a
> > male.
> >
> > I've seen the REI Sahara Tech Shirt and it looks promising BUT review
> > suggests it fits small. I'm a 33 arm length 16 inch neck w a 45 in
> > chest
> > and really get tired of busting buttons or having the sleeves
> > extending
> > inches past my wrists.
> >
> > The Rail Rider looks good but expensive as well. Patagonia's stuff
> > didn't really fit the check list.
> >
> > Anybody else have a favorite suggestion?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Robert
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:03:28 -0700
> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Giardia / Polio
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> <1AA71D4A-790D-4F5F-9D5F-AE13E4B1C50B at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
>
> On Oct 23, 2010, at 8:43 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>
> Just for the record, my source of information was a PBS documentary
> and either this month's or last month's issue of Discover Magazine.
>
> Whenever conversations degrade into "cite your sources" and "I stand
> by my statements" it's because the conversation has drifted away from
> the real issue into hurt feelings.
>
> If people are truly concerned about water quality, all this energy
> could be better spent doing something about pollution. Meanwhile,
> hike your own hike, don't shake hands with hikers, use hand sanitizer
> liberally, don't let anyone stick a hand in your bag of gorp, don't
> use the same knife that you picked your feet with to slice your
> fruit, and for chrissakes if you do, don't save that fruit for later
> unrefrigerated. I speak from experience on that last one.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:57:17 -0700
> From: "Jim Keener ( J J )" <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] GIANTS WIN PENNANT!
> To: Joseph Anderson <joedaddy44 at gmail.com>
> Cc: PCT-L MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <23ADD2DC-85EC-4A27-A8D4-4A79F37D9E0C at ridgetrailhiker.com>
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>
> So sorry about the Dodgers, Joe.
>
> Jim Keener ( J J )
>
> On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Joseph Anderson <joedaddy44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > VERY off topic Jim. It's true, the Giants won the LCS, but just
> > remeber what happened last time the Giants made the Series. God sent
> > an earthquake to show his Divine displeasure! I'm happy that all you
> > SF fans finally have something to cheer about, but don't go making any
> > big bets! You can be sure that Texas will be tougher than Philly was.
> > So, congratulations to all you SF fans out there. I'm happy for you.
> > !!!! GO TEXAS !!!!
> > Love, Joe
> >
> > On 10/23/10, Jim Keener ( J J ) <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com> wrote:
> >> Sorry, Brick.
> >>
> >> Jim Keener ( J J )
> >> http://postholer.com/jj
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> > --
> > Life is good!
> >
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 09:07:29 -0700
> From: "James F. Miller" <jamesfmiller at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] GIANTS WIN PENNANT!
> To: <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com>, <joedaddy44 at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <BAY147-w191853E74D072EB9CA845ECA400 at phx.gbl>
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>
> I believe it was the time before last that the earth moved..1989 and the last time was 2002
>
> > From: pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com
> > Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:57:17 -0700
> > To: joedaddy44 at gmail.com
> > CC: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] GIANTS WIN PENNANT!
> >
> > So sorry about the Dodgers, Joe.
> >
> > Jim Keener ( J J )
> >
> > On Oct 24, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Joseph Anderson <joedaddy44 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > VERY off topic Jim. It's true, the Giants won the LCS, but just
> > > remeber what happened last time the Giants made the Series. God sent
> > > an earthquake to show his Divine displeasure! I'm happy that all you
> > > SF fans finally have something to cheer about, but don't go making any
> > > big bets! You can be sure that Texas will be tougher than Philly was.
> > > So, congratulations to all you SF fans out there. I'm happy for you.
> > > !!!! GO TEXAS !!!!
> > > Love, Joe
> > >
> > > On 10/23/10, Jim Keener ( J J ) <pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com> wrote:
> > >> Sorry, Brick.
> > >>
> > >> Jim Keener ( J J )
> > >> http://postholer.com/jj
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 09:10:21 -0700
> From: "greg mushial" <gmushial at gmdr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Pct-L Digest, Vol 34, Issue 74
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:19:39 -0500
> > From: Albach <ralbach at austin.rr.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] hiking shirts
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Message-ID: <4CC3A5CB.8040207 at austin.rr.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm thinking of investing in a hiking shirt but thought to seek out some
> > suggestions. I've done sections A through C (May-June) in a combination
> > of white long sleeve nike and rei shirts - breathable synthetics - one
> > with a partial zipper/ collar - the other without zipper /collar.
> >
> > I'm thinking of getting a looser shirt with side vents, back vents, and
> > possibly vents under the front pockets. I'd like the sleeves to roll up
> > if desired and front buttons the entire length. My wife and kids have
> > these equivalents but am having trouble finding exactly this for a male.
> >
> > I've seen the REI Sahara Tech Shirt and it looks promising BUT review
> > suggests it fits small. I'm a 33 arm length 16 inch neck w a 45 in chest
> > and really get tired of busting buttons or having the sleeves extending
> > inches past my wrists.
> >
> > The Rail Rider looks good but expensive as well. Patagonia's stuff
> > didn't really fit the check list.
> >
> > Anybody else have a favorite suggestion?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -Robert
>
> Robert -
>
> I'm up here in the Redding area - an area known for its "moderate" summers -
> this last summer as the coolest we've had since I've been here (since '96) -
> we topped out at 109F. Most summers are equally "moderate' - the summer
> before the high was 118F, the summer before that 119F. So dealing with the
> heat is very real (otherwise, one lives in their a/c'd holes and doesn't
> have a life for 5 months a year). Likewise, I spend way too much time in
> front of a keyboard, as such need to get outside, if for no other reason
> than as an antidote. My antidote for computeritise is to tend a 1/2ac garden
> (mostly melons, but also all the rest of the kitchen crops) - that takes
> hours. Since we're 40deg north, the sun isn't that intense, as such, the
> simplest way to deal with the heat is to wear as little as possile -
> marathon running shorts and flipflops, that's it. Unfortunately dressing as
> such doesn't scale well to carrying a backpack, likewise, when having to go
> into town. For those occasions, one has to find a viable mode of dress. Most
> people here have tried most of the synthetic fabrics (and find them
> lacking), some simply go back to a simple light weave cotton. But what I've
> found that works best is: a short sleeve buttons down the front linen shirt.
> Clearly for areas where hypotherma is possible (in talking about
> backpacking) this is not an appropriate choice. But for my hiking outside of
> those situations, I now have a single linen shirt which has covered probably
> near a 1000 miles. Being button down the front, and seemingly to mostly a
> NoBo hiker, being able to unbutton it all the way provides excellent
> cooling. The linen itself, never seens to get that saturated soggy feeling
> that cotton does. I've woren the same shirt on trips for 10 days, 2 weeks
> without washing, and it seems to wick as well at the end as at the beginning
> of a trip. In terms of cost - this was/is the real winner - unlike the $40
> or $50 "scientifically engineered" shirts - these I found on
> SierraTradingPost for $4 each. I bought 4 of them, and when the one that
> I've been wearing for a half-dozen plus years wears out (no sign of that
> yet) I still have 3 more to turn to. So... something you might consider.
> BTW: eBay seems to be likewise a source of 99 cent shirts.
>
> TheDuck
>
>
>
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