[pct-l] Giardia / Polio

[Ron Dye]

This is getting ridiculous!

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From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 9:04 PM
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Giardia / Polio

You proved my point on the University of Google education.  Quantity is
never related to quality.  Especially when Wikipedia is the #1 hit.

Once again polio, the virus, is highly contagious.  In fact, in areas that
still have endemic viral populations, it is 100% contagious.  

I'm not sure where you "physician friend" got his anecdotal information, but
around 10% get symptoms.  Most others are asymptomatic.  I stand by what I
said.


On Oct 23, 2010, at 17:37 :29PDT, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:


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Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 15:09:41 -0700
From: Steve Cosner <stevec at sfsu.edu>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Giardia / Polio
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Cc: michael at leftcoastman.com
Message-ID: <4CC35D25.20104 at sfsu.edu>
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Michael, I cannot sit by and let your ridiculous misinformation go 
unanswered.  The stuff you wrote is below if anyone cares to read.

But the part about polio "is so contagious that you don't develop 
immunity, you get the disease" is outrageous.   I recently had a 
conversation with a physician friend who mentioned that polio symptoms 
appeared in only 1 person out of 1 or 2 thousand who had the virus.

Out of curiosity, I used the "University of Google", and searched for:
   polio "no symptoms"
Seems there are nearly 24k hits!   Maybe the "UofG" might be a good 
resource to double-check once in a while.


On 10/23/2010 11:20 AM, Michael <michael at leftcoastman.com> wrote:
> I don't want to get into an argument with anyone here, specifically
because I am the noobie, but I cannot let pseudoscience (that is a claim,
belief, or practice posing as science, but which does not constitute or
adhere to an appropriate scientific methodology) fly by without a comment.
> 
> Polio?This is a highly contagious virus that afflicted around 50,000
Americans a year across all socio-economic groups until the Polio vaccine
became a standard part of childhood vaccinations.  Utilizing a medical
search, a service that gives me access to every peer-reviewed publication
across the world (going back at least 90 years), and using the search terms
"polio hypersterile", I found not one hit.  I don't use Wikipedia or the
University of Google for my information.  Further, Polio is so contagious
that you don't develop immunity, you get the disease.  It would be
ridiculous to believe that you can get "exposure" to someone who had polio
and not get it.  The virus is too virulent, so exposure leads to the
disease, it does not provide immunity.


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