[pct-l] pepper spray
Melissa Rexilius
melissa.rexilius at hotmail.com
Mon May 24 13:43:45 CDT 2010
Haha, yes I think you are indeed correct! At least it's not aiming down-range at me though... Rather blowing in the wind... ;)
Recommendations for spray? I don't know, I got mine at a gun store. Oh the irony...
T. Rex
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pepper spray
> From: bill at burge.com
> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 11:27:21 -0700
> CC: pct-l at backcountry.net
> To: melissa.rexilius at hotmail.com
>
>
>
> Pepper spray works by spraying a concentrated mixture of capsicum, which is the active ingredient in hot peppers.
>
> So, technically, you ARE packing heat! ;-)
>
> BillB
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> 1. Re: WHERE'S YOUR GUN?? (Brick Robbins)
> 2. pepper spray (Melissa Rexilius)
> 3. WHERE'S YOUR GUN?? (Sean 'Miner' Nordeen)
> 4. Re: WHERE'S YOUR GUN?? (bighummel at aol.com)
> 5. Re: pepper spray (giniajim)
> 6. Re: pepper spray (Bill Burge)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 10:39:29 -0700
> From: Brick Robbins <brick at brickrobbins.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] WHERE'S YOUR GUN??
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Christopher Kopp
> <christopher.kopp at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Here we go again with another gun debate.....
>
> At least cellphones, and bear canisters aren't debates anymore
>
> What else does that leave? Dogs? Horses?
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 18:11:02 +0000
> From: Melissa Rexilius <melissa.rexilius at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] pepper spray
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> If you are so inclined as to need protection on the trail, consider a small amount of pepper spray. Packing heat seems ridiculous, weighs too much, and is doubtful that it's going to need to be used on the trail, ever. I believe a hiker is their own worst enemy, and that's being unprepared. I don't think you need to prepare for your hike with a gun in mind. Those who told you that were concerned because you are female. If they were to go out on the trail I bet they aren't toting around gun/ammo. I know I can speak for myself and probably other hikers that I don't want to have to worry about someone out on the trail with a gun whatsoever.
>
>
>
> T. Rex
>
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> > 1. Re: WHERE'S YOUR GUN?? (Randy Forsland)
> > 2. WHERE'S YOUR GUN?? (Christopher Kopp)
> > 3. Planning first solo (jomike at cot.net)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:10:51 -0700
> > From: Randy Forsland <hikertrsh at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] WHERE'S YOUR GUN??
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> > Man...that's what i get for listening to a NV co-worker..he was wrong. and i
> > was right the first time. CA only recognizes their own CCWs
> >
> > http://apps.carryconcealed.net/legal/california-ccw-state-laws.php
> >
> > Redwood
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Randy Forsland <hikertrsh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Oops...my bad...CA does recognize nevada's CCW...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Randy Forsland <hikertrsh at gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> I only carry both of those when going to the mall...extra baggage on the
> > >> trail
> > >>
> > >> Redwood
> > >>
> > >> PS- jim...you do know that your nevada CCW is not recognized in california
> > >> don't you ?/ CA has no reciprocity as far as CCWs go...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:02 AM, <jomike at cot.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I've had to
> > >>> listen to a lot of people, who aren't hikers and never will be hikers
> > >>> tell
> > >>> me that I need to take a gun to defend myself in the big scary woods
> > >>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>>
> > >>> THIS PAST WEEKEND i HAD FOUR MEN GRILLING ME ABOUT BEING "STUPID" to be
> > >>> ON THE TRAIL BOTH ALONE, AND FOR NOT HAVING A spot AND A GUN. They really
> > >>> laid into me. I didn't take it well. tHEY DEFENDED MY HUSBAND SAYING HE JUST
> > >>> WORRIES ABOUT ME. He's A WORRY WORT REGARDLESS!
> > >>>
> > >>> are we there yet
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:33:29 -0700
> > From: Christopher Kopp <christopher.kopp at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] WHERE'S YOUR GUN??
> > To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Message-ID: <C81FF869.5FE0%christopher.kopp at gmail.com>
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> > Here we go again with another gun debate.....
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:45:39 -0700
> > From: <jomike at cot.net>
> > Subject: [pct-l] Planning first solo
> > To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Cc: diane at santabarbarahikes.com
> > Message-ID: <C761F1D20C8A40E78BFFACD3C71587A7 at arewethereyePC>
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> >
> > You aren't likely to be very alone on the PCT unless you hike out of
> > season, and even then it would have to be an ugly boring section with
> > intolerable weather so you didn't meet section hikers. I went for a
> > solo hike this weekend and within half an hour had met two people who
> > knew my mother. Within another hour or two I'd met another fellow. A
> > few more hours I had met three more. Eventually we all ended up at
> > the same campsite and several more also arrived. There was a PCTA
> > work crew there so we had hot meals and a warm campfire to enjoy
> > along with conversation and camaraderie on what was a windy and
> > frigid night. In the morning we had breakfast in the snow showers.
> > Hiking the PCT is far from a solitary existence full of scary beasts.
> > I'm sure the scariest beast you'll ever meet is that guy with his
> > gun, but I bet he sends it home early on in his hike. Unless he's a
> > section hiker and then you probably will be able to walk through his
> > radius of influence in less than an hour.
> > ###############################################
> >
> > I am inclined to disagree with this; let's say it all depends upon where you are hiking. I have hiked many three to four day trips up here in extreme northern CA and seen as few as one person the entire trip and as many as two.
> >
> > are we there yet
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 11:11:27 -0700
> From: "Sean 'Miner' Nordeen" <sean at lifesadventures.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] WHERE'S YOUR GUN??
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> >What else does that leave? Dogs? Horses?
> Well, the only person that I KNEW was packing heat last year was riding a horse.
>
> -Miner
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 14:14:58 -0400
> From: bighummel at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] WHERE'S YOUR GUN??
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> I've always found that an ice axe properly wielded seems to be sufficient deterrent to any threats on my safety by miscreants. Especially if I raise one eyebrow and scowl at the bastards with a crazy look.
>
>
> Greg Hummel
>
>
> " Travel far, carry little, keep it simple, lighten up!"
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> From: "giniajim" <jplynch at crosslink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pepper spray
> To: "Melissa Rexilius" <melissa.rexilius at hotmail.com>,
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> I like the pepper spray idea. What would you recommend for non-grizzly environments.
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
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> If you are so inclined as to need protection on the trail, consider a small amount of pepper spray. Packing heat seems ridiculous, weighs too much, and is doubtful that it's going to need to be used on the trail, ever. I believe a hiker is their own worst enemy, and that's being unprepared. I don't think you need to prepare for your hike with a gun in mind. Those who told you that were concerned because you are female. If they were to go out on the trail I bet they aren't toting around gun/ammo. I know I can speak for myself and probably other hikers that I don't want to have to worry about someone out on the trail with a gun whatsoever.
>
>
>
> T. Rex
>
> > From: pct-l-request at backcountry.net
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> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 12:00:01 -0500
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> >
> > 1. Re: WHERE'S YOUR GUN?? (Randy Forsland)
> > 2. WHERE'S YOUR GUN?? (Christopher Kopp)
> > 3. Planning first solo (jomike at cot.net)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:10:51 -0700
> > From: Randy Forsland <hikertrsh at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pct-l] WHERE'S YOUR GUN??
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Message-ID:
> > <AANLkTinkqCMEen5rsN8zhBrFeibvJnoMrPbfoLYQHnjk at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Man...that's what i get for listening to a NV co-worker..he was wrong. and i
> > was right the first time. CA only recognizes their own CCWs
> >
> > http://apps.carryconcealed.net/legal/california-ccw-state-laws.php
> >
> > Redwood
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Randy Forsland <hikertrsh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Oops...my bad...CA does recognize nevada's CCW...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Randy Forsland <hikertrsh at gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> I only carry both of those when going to the mall...extra baggage on the
> > >> trail
> > >>
> > >> Redwood
> > >>
> > >> PS- jim...you do know that your nevada CCW is not recognized in california
> > >> don't you ?/ CA has no reciprocity as far as CCWs go...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:02 AM, <jomike at cot.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I've had to
> > >>> listen to a lot of people, who aren't hikers and never will be hikers
> > >>> tell
> > >>> me that I need to take a gun to defend myself in the big scary woods
> > >>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>>
> > >>> THIS PAST WEEKEND i HAD FOUR MEN GRILLING ME ABOUT BEING "STUPID" to be
> > >>> ON THE TRAIL BOTH ALONE, AND FOR NOT HAVING A spot AND A GUN. They really
> > >>> laid into me. I didn't take it well. tHEY DEFENDED MY HUSBAND SAYING HE JUST
> > >>> WORRIES ABOUT ME. He's A WORRY WORT REGARDLESS!
> > >>>
> > >>> are we there yet
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Pct-l mailing list
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:33:29 -0700
> > From: Christopher Kopp <christopher.kopp at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [pct-l] WHERE'S YOUR GUN??
> > To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Message-ID: <C81FF869.5FE0%christopher.kopp at gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> >
> > Here we go again with another gun debate.....
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:45:39 -0700
> > From: <jomike at cot.net>
> > Subject: [pct-l] Planning first solo
> > To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> > Cc: diane at santabarbarahikes.com
> > Message-ID: <C761F1D20C8A40E78BFFACD3C71587A7 at arewethereyePC>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > You aren't likely to be very alone on the PCT unless you hike out of
> > season, and even then it would have to be an ugly boring section with
> > intolerable weather so you didn't meet section hikers. I went for a
> > solo hike this weekend and within half an hour had met two people who
> > knew my mother. Within another hour or two I'd met another fellow. A
> > few more hours I had met three more. Eventually we all ended up at
> > the same campsite and several more also arrived. There was a PCTA
> > work crew there so we had hot meals and a warm campfire to enjoy
> > along with conversation and camaraderie on what was a windy and
> > frigid night. In the morning we had breakfast in the snow showers.
> > Hiking the PCT is far from a solitary existence full of scary beasts.
> > I'm sure the scariest beast you'll ever meet is that guy with his
> > gun, but I bet he sends it home early on in his hike. Unless he's a
> > section hiker and then you probably will be able to walk through his
> > radius of influence in less than an hour.
> > ###############################################
> >
> > I am inclined to disagree with this; let's say it all depends upon where you are hiking. I have hiked many three to four day trips up here in extreme northern CA and seen as few as one person the entire trip and as many as two.
> >
> > are we there yet
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 11:27:21 -0700
> From: Bill Burge <bill at burge.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] pepper spray
> To: Melissa Rexilius <melissa.rexilius at hotmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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>
> Pepper spray works by spraying a concentrated mixture of capsicum, which is the active ingredient in hot peppers.
>
> So, technically, you ARE packing heat! ;-)
>
> BillB
>
>
> On May 24, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Melissa Rexilius wrote:
>
> >
> > If you are so inclined as to need protection on the trail, consider a small amount of pepper spray. Packing heat seems ridiculous, weighs too much, and is doubtful that it's going to need to be used on the trail, ever. I believe a hiker is their own worst enemy, and that's being unprepared. I don't think you need to prepare for your hike with a gun in mind. Those who told you that were concerned because you are female. If they were to go out on the trail I bet they aren't toting around gun/ammo. I know I can speak for myself and probably other hikers that I don't want to have to worry about someone out on the trail with a gun whatsoever.
> >
> >
> >
> > T. Rex
> >
> >> From: pct-l-request at backcountry.net
> >> Subject: Pct-l Digest, Vol 29, Issue 109
> >> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 12:00:01 -0500
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> >>
> >> 1. Re: WHERE'S YOUR GUN?? (Randy Forsland)
> >> 2. WHERE'S YOUR GUN?? (Christopher Kopp)
> >> 3. Planning first solo (jomike at cot.net)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:10:51 -0700
> >> From: Randy Forsland <hikertrsh at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [pct-l] WHERE'S YOUR GUN??
> >> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> >> Message-ID:
> >> <AANLkTinkqCMEen5rsN8zhBrFeibvJnoMrPbfoLYQHnjk at mail.gmail.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >>
> >> Man...that's what i get for listening to a NV co-worker..he was wrong. and i
> >> was right the first time. CA only recognizes their own CCWs
> >>
> >> http://apps.carryconcealed.net/legal/california-ccw-state-laws.php
> >>
> >> Redwood
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Randy Forsland <hikertrsh at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oops...my bad...CA does recognize nevada's CCW...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Randy Forsland <hikertrsh at gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I only carry both of those when going to the mall...extra baggage on the
> >>>> trail
> >>>>
> >>>> Redwood
> >>>>
> >>>> PS- jim...you do know that your nevada CCW is not recognized in california
> >>>> don't you ?/ CA has no reciprocity as far as CCWs go...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 9:02 AM, <jomike at cot.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I've had to
> >>>>> listen to a lot of people, who aren't hikers and never will be hikers
> >>>>> tell
> >>>>> me that I need to take a gun to defend myself in the big scary woods
> >>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>
> >>>>> THIS PAST WEEKEND i HAD FOUR MEN GRILLING ME ABOUT BEING "STUPID" to be
> >>>>> ON THE TRAIL BOTH ALONE, AND FOR NOT HAVING A spot AND A GUN. They really
> >>>>> laid into me. I didn't take it well. tHEY DEFENDED MY HUSBAND SAYING HE JUST
> >>>>> WORRIES ABOUT ME. He's A WORRY WORT REGARDLESS!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> are we there yet
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Pct-l mailing list
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
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> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:33:29 -0700
> >> From: Christopher Kopp <christopher.kopp at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [pct-l] WHERE'S YOUR GUN??
> >> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> >> Message-ID: <C81FF869.5FE0%christopher.kopp at gmail.com>
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> >>
> >> Here we go again with another gun debate.....
> >>
> >>
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> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 09:45:39 -0700
> >> From: <jomike at cot.net>
> >> Subject: [pct-l] Planning first solo
> >> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> >> Cc: diane at santabarbarahikes.com
> >> Message-ID: <C761F1D20C8A40E78BFFACD3C71587A7 at arewethereyePC>
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> >>
> >> You aren't likely to be very alone on the PCT unless you hike out of
> >> season, and even then it would have to be an ugly boring section with
> >> intolerable weather so you didn't meet section hikers. I went for a
> >> solo hike this weekend and within half an hour had met two people who
> >> knew my mother. Within another hour or two I'd met another fellow. A
> >> few more hours I had met three more. Eventually we all ended up at
> >> the same campsite and several more also arrived. There was a PCTA
> >> work crew there so we had hot meals and a warm campfire to enjoy
> >> along with conversation and camaraderie on what was a windy and
> >> frigid night. In the morning we had breakfast in the snow showers.
> >> Hiking the PCT is far from a solitary existence full of scary beasts.
> >> I'm sure the scariest beast you'll ever meet is that guy with his
> >> gun, but I bet he sends it home early on in his hike. Unless he's a
> >> section hiker and then you probably will be able to walk through his
> >> radius of influence in less than an hour.
> >> ###############################################
> >>
> >> I am inclined to disagree with this; let's say it all depends upon where you are hiking. I have hiked many three to four day trips up here in extreme northern CA and seen as few as one person the entire trip and as many as two.
> >>
> >> are we there yet
> >>
> >>
> >>
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