[pct-l] water caches

Thu Mar 25 12:28:29 CDT 2010

Deadbeat, 

I guess I am one of the those that have a corncob up my butt as you have suggested since I posted what I felt were non-threatening comments regarding water caches and specifically about placement of water caches.  Do the water caches hurt me?  No they do not.  But, they are an eye sore to me and that is why I suggest that they be moved off trail.  If you want to use them go ahead and use them, but why not walk a couple of hundred yards off-trail to do it? 

So, let me know if you want that corn cob buttered when I leave it at the cache for you. 

Elevator 

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From: dnlcyclone at aol.com 
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 10:21:30 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: [pct-l] water caches 

Here, here!  Postholer.  Seriously.  If you don't want the water, don't drink it.  It's amazing to me how some people on this forum have a corn cob up their butt about things that DO NOT HURT THEM OR OTHERS.  Wow.   

Deadbeat Dave 

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:07:30 -0800 
From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com> 
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> I have a "whatever" attitude towards caches. 

Do you have a "whatever" attitude towards mt bikes and dirt bikes on the PCT 
as well? 

In both cases it's the individual making the choice for all of us. Of 
course, this small elite group knows what is best for us all. 

While the history of water caches is certainly interesting, it does not 
justify the existence. Dispersing a lengthy history of the why's and how's 
may seem to validate caches, it does not. In the end it's just a petty 
justification for illegal behavior. 

-postholer 
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 09:50:56 -0700 
From: "Ron Moak" <ronmoak at sixmoondesigns.com> 
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Help needed to stock 3rd Gate Cache 
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Postholer writes >>Water caches on public lands are illegal.<< 

Exactly what law or regulation do they violate? Are you in law enforcement 
or a member of the legal profession? If not, what is the source of your 
definitive statement? If I remember correctly there is a least one if not 
more caches that were maintained by the BLM. 

Postholer writes >>In both cases it's the individual making the choice for 
all of us. Of course, this small elite group knows what is best for us 
all.<< 

Granted I've not done a definitive survey of the percentage of people who 
use water caches vs. those who don't. But it seems to me that most of the 
hikers utilize water caches on occasion. It appears that the small group of 
people who maintain the caches are doing a valuable service for the majority 
of hikers. 

To this observer it seems that you stand at the head of that small elite 
group that constantly thinks he knows best and is always telling people how 
they should behave. 

If you don't like caches walk on by. I assure you, no one cares. 

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Fallingwater 

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