[pct-l] Big Toe Pain, Stiff Shoe Recommendations?
Justin Smith
justinsmith91 at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 15 14:11:46 CDT 2010
A question for those of you hikers who may have or do experience giant toe pain. I think I may have a condition called turf toe (big toe joint is sore and swollen if it bends to much) and I was wondering if you have any suggestions of stiff soled shoe recommendations? Thank you for the feedback in advance. Happy trails.
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> 4. It Kinda sucks (Paul Magnanti)
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> 6. Re: It Kinda sucks (patti kulesz)
> 7. Using a GPS (Erik Turnberg)
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> 9. Re: Using a GPS (Halfmile)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:15:28 -0700
> From: Adam Mason <amason.ml at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] It Kinda sucks
> To: Eric Lee <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
> Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Wait a second.... Hahaha. Now I'm not on the trail yet. If I meet you
> and you figure out who I am then by all means I'll accept. I hope I
> don't see you guys.
> I mean I do but not if I get that name.
> Wow that would be pure irony. Haha
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2010, at 10:03 PM, "Eric Lee" <saintgimp at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm seeing a possible trail name for Adam coming out of this
> > thread . . .
> > like, say, "Pinky"? Just sayin' . . . <grin>
> >
> > Eric
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> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:20:01 -0700
> From: Joseph Anderson <joedaddy44 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] VVR
> To: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
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> I feel better now. Amazing what a hug can do! Thanks Mags!
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:28:41 -0000
> From: "Dave Potter" <davepotter at webmail1.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] It Kinda sucks
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> In the celebrated British film 'Brighton Rock' centring on the activities of
> a gang of assorted criminals their leader was a young hoodlum known as
> Pinkie!
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam Mason" <amason.ml at gmail.com>
> To: "Eric Lee" <saintgimp at hotmail.com>
> Cc: "PCT MailingList" <>
> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] It Kinda sucks
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>
> > Wait a second.... Hahaha. Now I'm not on the trail yet. If I meet you
> > and you figure out who I am then by all means I'll accept. I hope I
> > don't see you guys.
> > I mean I do but not if I get that name.
> > Wow that would be pure irony. Haha
> >
> >
> > On Mar 14, 2010, at 10:03 PM, "Eric Lee" <saintgimp at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm seeing a possible trail name for Adam coming out of this
> >> thread . . .
> >> like, say, "Pinky"? Just sayin' . . . <grin>
> >>
> >> Eric
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:35:36 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Paul Magnanti <pmags at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] It Kinda sucks
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:50:31 -0600
> From: Scott Bryce <sbryce at scottbryce.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] It Kinda sucks
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> Paul Magnanti wrote:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEuke9KzpoQ&feature=related
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>
> Does anybody here remember Commander Keen? He wore a pink shirt.
>
> http://arandomgamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/commander-keen-5-ss1.gif
> http://tinyurl.com/ydw3n74
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> Commander keen was originally written for 16 color systems, and pink was
> the only color on the palette that wasn't being used for something else.
>
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> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:02:43 -0700 (PDT)
> From: patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] It Kinda sucks
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> seriously...they're free get over over it y'all! and stop being haters! there are 9 of us hiking for cancer this year on the PCT with 7 others on the AT and CDT...I see it as a sign! Plus just think how good u'll look sportin that pretty pink bandana on ur shaggy heads in town! REAL hippies would be diggin it!
>
> patti?Sugar Moma PCT 09!
> www.hikestrong2010.com?hiking again in 2010 for cancer!?
>
> --- On Sun, 3/14/10, Andrea Dinsmore <zaqueltooocool at gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: Andrea Dinsmore <zaqueltooocool at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] It Kinda sucks
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 7:19 PM
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> Ya'll sure whine and complain about something that is made as a gift for you
> each year.? Linda makes at least 500 of these each year and does her best to
> make sure each one of you have a special memory from the trail and the Class
> of 2002. Quit being so woosey and wear it proudly.
>
> PCT MOM
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> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:24:01 -0400
> From: Erik Turnberg <erik.turnberg at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Using a GPS
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> First I want to give a huge thanks to halfmile for all the great information
> on his website and all the time he's put into it. I've printed and will be
> using his maps in conjuction with the pct atlas. I'm also interested in
> bringing a GPS along on the trip. My question is how do people handle all
> of the waypoint data? Have you just bought one very large memory card and
> loaded all the waypoint data? or Are people loading onto several memory
> cards and putting them in mail drops? I have a Garmin Vista HCx, which I'm
> still trying to figure out how to use given the complete lack of
> instructions with any Garmin product, especially when you want to use it on
> a mac.
>
> Thank,
>
> Granite
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:32:04 -0600
> From: Eugene <atetuna at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Using a GPS
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> I don't think you'd have a problem fitting all the waypoints on your gps.
> My older Garmin Vista was able to fit the tracks and waypoints for section
> A with using only like 3% of memory. It's uploading maps that's a
> problem, but I believe the new Vista has a memory card right? Just get a
> memory card. They're very inexpensive. You'll want maps if you can have
> them. You can get very detailed maps from gpsfiledepot.com. The track
> data is pretty nice too. No need to limit yourself when storage space is
> cheap and plentiful.
>
> Anyway, I just ordered an Oregon and a memory card. I got the memory card
> so I can load anything I want onto it, and still have plenty of room for
> pictures.
>
> I can't tell you how to use it with your computer though. I'm a Windows
> guy, plus my Vista used a serial cable....up until it didn't, which forced
> me into a new gps...ugh.
>
> On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:24:01 -0600, Erik Turnberg
> <erik.turnberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > First I want to give a huge thanks to halfmile for all the great
> > information
> > on his website and all the time he's put into it. I've printed and will
> > be
> > using his maps in conjuction with the pct atlas. I'm also interested in
> > bringing a GPS along on the trip. My question is how do people handle
> > all
> > of the waypoint data? Have you just bought one very large memory card
> > and
> > loaded all the waypoint data? or Are people loading onto several memory
> > cards and putting them in mail drops? I have a Garmin Vista HCx, which
> > I'm
> > still trying to figure out how to use given the complete lack of
> > instructions with any Garmin product, especially when you want to use it
> > on
> > a mac.
> >
> > Thank,
> >
> > Granite
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:53:44 -0700
> From: Halfmile <list at lon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Using a GPS
> To: Erik Turnberg <erik.turnberg at gmail.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Granite,
> If you use the free Gramin POI loader software here:
> http://www8.garmin.com/products/poiloader/
> You can easily load all my 6000 + waypoints as custom Points Of
> Interest (POI) on the micro SD card and get around the 1,000 waypoint
> limit. POI's require little space on the memory card.
> You can load all the Garmin maps for CA, OR and WA on a single micro
> SD card along with the POIs. If you are using the newer more detailed
> 1:24,000 maps, a single 4 GB microSD card will be required. A 2 GB
> micro SD card works for the less detailed 1:100,000 maps.
> If you go with the 4GB microSD card, run Garmin's web updater to
> update the firmware in your GPS, as support for > 2 GB cards on the
> Vista was added with an update about a year ago.
> http://www8.garmin.com/products/webupdater/howtoinstall.jsp
> Also, you will need to go into map setup and set the zoom level user
> points are displayed on the GPS map screen. With the default "auto"
> setting the custom POI's you load into the GPS usually don't display
> on the map screen. If you have any questions let me know.
>
> -Halfmile
>
> On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Erik Turnberg <erik.turnberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> > First I want to give a huge thanks to halfmile for all the great information
> > on his website and all the time he's put into it. ?I've printed and will be
> > using his maps in conjuction with the pct atlas. ?I'm also interested in
> > bringing a GPS along on the trip. ?My question is how do people handle all
> > of the waypoint data? ?Have you just bought one very large memory card and
> > loaded all the waypoint data? ?or Are people loading onto several memory
> > cards and putting them in mail drops? ?I have a Garmin Vista HCx, which I'm
> > still trying to figure out how to use given the complete lack of
> > instructions with any Garmin product, especially when you want to use it on
> > a mac.
> >
> > Thank,
> >
> > Granite
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 14:58:37 EDT
> From: Trekker4 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camera search experience
> To: bumblefist at gmail.com, cdt-l at backcountry.net,
> pct-l at backcountry.net, at-l at backcountry.net
> Cc: customerservice at ritzcamera.com
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> In their minds, obviously, but I've never had that experience with any
> other website -- ever -- period. They also put me on their mailing list
> without my permission. They also sent 2 more emails trying to get the order. I
> only thought they were going to ship my "reservation" as an "order", until I
> remembered they had no payment info. They asked at least 4 times for my
> credit card info, They asked at least 6 times for my order number. I don't
> consider any of that behavior honest or ethical; I've never been treated like
> that by any other company, online or not.
>
> End of conversation; I've made my points -- 3 times!
> Bob "Trekker"
> Big Bend Desert Denizen, and...
> Naturalized Citizen - Republic of Texas
>
> "Government cripples you, then hands you a crutch and says, 'See, if it
> wasn't for us, you couldn't walk.' " -- Harry Browne
>
> "If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it
> costs when its free." -- P J O'Rourke
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 3/15/2010 12:48:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> bumblefist at gmail.com writes:
>
> Really the only problem here is your personal definition of the words
> "order" and "reservation" are obviously very different things, while to many
> other people these days, there isn't much difference between those two words.
> Reservation can mean that you have identified items which you have the
> intention of purchasing and you want the vendor to set them aside for you
> until such time as you decide whether or not you will actually pay for them.
> Placing an order can also mean that you have identified items which you
> have the intention of purchasing, and in today's world where everything is
> computerized, those items will be set aside in their computerized inventory
> system until such time as you decide to pay for them, which makes it pretty
> much the same as a reservation.
> "Orders" do not become "shipments" until payment is received. You seemed
> to think that when you saw the word "order" they meant they were actually
> going to ship those things to you.
> Even though you were talking to a live person on the phone when you made
> your "reservation," he was surely inputting the data into a computer where
> from there it became automated and sent you that email confirming that you
> had expressed an interest in purchasing certain items and there was a file
> number that could be used to identify those items. The email did not say
> that items were being shipped.
> While the human you were talking to understood what you meant when you
> confirmed with him that it was a "reservation" and not an "order", a computer
> likely doesn't see any difference between a reservation and an order that
> has not yet been paid for.
>
> I don't see any dishonesty anywhere in any of this.
>
> You simply failed to realise that in their minds, placing an order is no
> different from making a reservation. That is why they kept using the word
> "order." You never paid for anything so they were never going to send you
> anything. You had nothing to worry about. They tried to explain that to
> you but you were still hung up on the word "order" and your assumption that
> their definition of the word was the same as yours and they were going to
> send the stuff to you.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:44 PM, <_Trekker4 at aol.com_
> (mailto:Trekker4 at aol.com) > wrote:
>
>
>
> I've never had this happen with any other online merchant; I live 140
> miles from the closest city, so have been ordering online for 10 years. No the
> "reservation" was not an order; the "reservation" was made verbally over
> the phone, as I'd done nothing online to place an order, or even start the
> process. He asked for my email address and confirmed that this was a 24-hr
> reservation, not an order. He also had to have written down the camera and 2
> memory cards I talked about, as I never entered that info anywhere; the
> followup email a few hours later clearly says "thank you for your order",
> doesn't ask for payment info, and had no link for step 2. In the dialogue they
> both kept calling it an order, even though I kept saying there was no
> order... but you read all that.
> One $, 1 vote. I voted elsewhere for $75 less, and let a few hundred
> people know of Ritz's dishonest practices and poor customer service. I'm
> satisfied; my camera from Sam's was shipped out 2nd day air this morning, less
> than 12 hours after my order. It's Fri, but I'm sure it will be here Mon
> morning.
>
>
>
> Bob "Trekker"
> Big Bend Desert Denizen, and...
> Naturalized Citizen - Republic of Texas
>
> "Government cripples you, then hands you a crutch and says, 'See, if it
> wasn't for us, you couldn't walk.' " -- Harry Browne
>
> "If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it
> costs when its free." -- P J O'Rourke
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 3/12/2010 11:38:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> _bumblefist at gmail.com_ (mailto:bumblefist at gmail.com) writes:
>
>
>
>
> I enjoyed reading your post on the CDT-L but I think you must not have
> much experience with online shopping.
> When buying things online there are usually three steps that you go
> through. Step one, placing the order followed by step two, determining how you
> are going to pay for it and then making the payment,after that step three,
> the item is shipped.
> Sounds like Ritz Camera's way of holding a reservation is to complete step
> one by placing the order, but not procede to step two, which they could
> not have done anyways because you had not given them any payment information.
> If you had decided to buy the item then you would have just proceded to
> step two and only after that would they have shipped you anything.
> They sent you a confirmation order number so that if you decided to
> procede to step two, there would be no confusion about what it was you were
> wishing to buy. After that you likely would have received a "shipping" order
> number showing that the transaction was complete, you actually bought
> something, and it was being delivered to you.
> This all seems perfectly normal to me because I've bought plenty of stuff
> online and I'm familiar with these automated systems.
> As long as you had not provided any credit card information or any other
> payment information, there is no way that they could have scammed you. Even
> if they were dumb enough to send you the camera, legally you would not be
> obligated to pay because the transaction was never completed. It would be
> their own dumb fault for giving something away before they had secured
> payment for it.
>
> I think you must have really confused poor Patricia. Technically you had
> ordered something because in this case a reservation is the same thing as
> an order except that you have not yet agreed to pay, but you kept insisting
> that you had not placed an order. Reading their side of the conversation I
> can understand what they were trying to tell you.
> That being said, I did get a good laugh out of the whole "Boaters World"
> thing. You are right about them needing to improve their customer service
> so they at least don't confuse their customers even further.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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