[pct-l] VVR2 / using the word 'shady'

Vermilion Valley Resort pct-l at edisonlake.com
Fri Mar 12 11:17:56 CST 2010


I for one am done with it.  I think as Thomas stated, it's valuable information, but frankly - I've spent too much time on it.

Bill

On Mar 12, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Kelly Sharkey wrote:

> I for one hope that this will be the end of the VVR topic. I really enjoy
> this forum, but I am disappointed how far people have taken this topic and
> the topic of the people carrying the baby. People have made things personal,
> and I just don't feel that is in the best interest of anyone involved.
> Remember the golden rule "Treat others as you want to be treated."
> 
> On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Junaid Dawud <jdawud at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ok. First off, my opinions were offered as just that, opinions. If you
>> don't like my opinions or have some that run contrary to mine, that's
>> great - I'm probably in the minority on this one. I'd like to think
>> that the pct-l is a forum where reasonable minds may differ (though
>> some of the silly wars I saw in 2006 and the current assault on the
>> people hiking with a baby would suggest that this is not always so).
>> 
>> As Ive already said, VVR was a mistake FOR ME. I say that primarily
>> because I think mono hotsprings is a better place FOR ME. Why? --->
>> hotsprings, free camping, a PO, a warm lake with fun cliff jumping.
>> 
>> And again, as I've said, many liked vvr and I'm not trying to tell
>> people that they should not go, indeed the pie alone could be worth
>> the visit.
>> 
>> I did in fact talk to the owner about the resupply merchandise on his
>> shelves. He said what others have said, he opens the unclaimed boxes
>> at the end of the season and sells the stuff. For some thats fine, I
>> do think it's shady. To my knowledge there are no other places we send
>> packages that do this.
>> 
>> Some have urged me to offer a speedy and public apology so as to
>> maintain the good will of the vvr folks to hikers and to avoid a
>> lawsuit. Let me be clear, I will never offer such an apology. Ever. I
>> stated my opinions and qualified them as such. I invited the VVR folks
>> to offer their perspective, which they have. People with minds can
>> read both sides and make their own decisions about what they want to do.
>> 
>> To the folks at VVR, I'd suggest that the persistence of the 'rumor'
>> has much to do with the fact that there's some truth to it: unclaimed
>> boxes become merchandise. I had boxes I didn't claim at other resupply
>> points, they were returned to me. You might consider rethinking your
>> practice, contact other businesses that cater to hikers and see how
>> they handle unclaimed boxes.
>> 
>> Finally, get a grip people. It's a discussion forum, let's discuss
>> without getting so worked up that spittle accumulates on our screens.
>> 
>> "above all else remember this: to thine own self be true."
>> 
>> Junaid
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