[pct-l] wood burning stove

[Ken Powers]

http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/fire/firerestrictions.shtml

complete with the penalties for not following the ban.

Alcohol stoves are usually considered an open flame by NFS, but they are not 
mentioned either as allowed or banned in most fire restriction notices.

Ken
www GottaWalk com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Jamrog" <balrog at midcoast.com>
To: "Ken Powers" <ken at gottawalk.com>
Cc: "Steve McAllister" <brooklynkayak at gmail.com>; "Pacific Crest Trail List" 
<pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] wood burning stove


I'm curious.  Show me the data.  Can anyone present the actual laws that 
pertain to stove use in these areas? Several alcohol and multifuel stoves 
are commercially produced.  That can't be it.  The valve that can turn off 
many of these tiny stoves in to invert a coking pot and place it over the 
stove to extinguish it.  Certainly blowtorches without windscreens can't be 
the sole answer.  The most dangerous stove situation I've ever witnessed was 
a misthreaded, and flaming Pocket Rocket that had to be heaved as far as 
possible like a hand grenade because it wouldn't shut off.
Uncle Tom

> Regarding #1: In all the times I have hiked in areas where fire 
> restrictions
> were in place the only fires allowed were in commercial stoves. Alcohol
> stoves, open fires and wood stoves were specifically not allowed because
> there was no valve to turn them off.
>
> Ken
> www GottaWalk com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve McAllister" <brooklynkayak at gmail.com>
> To: "Pacific Crest Trail List" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] wood burning stove
>
>
> If you plan on using wood a lot on a hike, don't bother cleaning the
> bottom and keep it in plastic bag. The sticky residue won't be a
> problem.
>
> There are minor advantages with a wood stove:
>
> 1) You can use wood in areas where open fires aren't allowed as long
> as it isn't a problem collecting wood.
>
> 2) They are easier to light and control, especially in rain and/or
> wind. You can contain the fire and improve airflow at the same time.
>
> 3) They can be more efficient by directing the fire energy to the
> bottom of the pot. So you don't have to gather much fuel.
>
> 4) It is usually much quicker for a wood stove to boil water than an open
> fire.
>
> 5) They are safer, especially when combined with a wind screen (which
> I do use). Open fires can eject sparks that can be caught by the wind.
>
>
> Of course, if there is an open fire anyway, no need to use the wood stove.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
> <diane at santabarbarahikes.com> wrote:
>> I used a wood burning stove for a little while, but not the model
>> someone asked about. I didn't like having a sticky pot in my pack.
>> The wood out here, in So Cal anyway, is very resinous and leaves a
>> sticky residue.
>>
>> I'm not really sure why you need a stove if you're going to cook with
>> wood. It doesn't seem to work any faster to use a stove. It just
>> seems that you use more wood that you have to chunk up into smaller
>> pieces. A tiny fire works just as well without a stove to cart around.
>>
>> My friend Lenny cooked on a tiny fire every night the whole way.
>> Worked for him.
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