[pct-l] wood burning stove

[Bill Burge]

The hardcore do's and don'ts are difficult to find and interpret.

Check the Rules for Remote Camping section:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/sanbernardino/recreation/camping/

And here's the fire permit mentioned:
http://fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fsm9_033941.pdf

but the status of alcohol stoves is ambiguous.



BillB



On Jan 11, 2010, at 9:36 AM, Thomas Jamrog wrote:

> I'm curious.  Show me the data.  Can anyone present the actual laws  
> that pertain to stove use in these areas? Several alcohol and  
> multifuel stoves are commercially produced.  That can't be it.  The  
> valve that can turn off many of these tiny stoves in to invert a  
> coking pot and place it over the stove to extinguish it.  Certainly  
> blowtorches without windscreens can't be the sole answer.  The most  
> dangerous stove situation I've ever witnessed was a misthreaded, and  
> flaming Pocket Rocket that had to be heaved as far as possible like  
> a hand grenade because it wouldn't shut off.
> Uncle Tom
>
>> Regarding #1: In all the times I have hiked in areas where fire  
>> restrictions
>> were in place the only fires allowed were in commercial stoves.  
>> Alcohol
>> stoves, open fires and wood stoves were specifically not allowed  
>> because
>> there was no valve to turn them off.
>>
>> Ken
>> www GottaWalk com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve McAllister" <brooklynkayak at gmail.com>
>> To: "Pacific Crest Trail List" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 8:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] wood burning stove
>>
>>
>> If you plan on using wood a lot on a hike, don't bother cleaning the
>> bottom and keep it in plastic bag. The sticky residue won't be a
>> problem.
>>
>> There are minor advantages with a wood stove:
>>
>> 1) You can use wood in areas where open fires aren't allowed as long
>> as it isn't a problem collecting wood.
>>
>> 2) They are easier to light and control, especially in rain and/or
>> wind. You can contain the fire and improve airflow at the same time.
>>
>> 3) They can be more efficient by directing the fire energy to the
>> bottom of the pot. So you don't have to gather much fuel.
>>
>> 4) It is usually much quicker for a wood stove to boil water than  
>> an open
>> fire.
>>
>> 5) They are safer, especially when combined with a wind screen (which
>> I do use). Open fires can eject sparks that can be caught by the  
>> wind.
>>
>>
>> Of course, if there is an open fire anyway, no need to use the wood  
>> stove.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot  
>> com
>> <diane at santabarbarahikes.com> wrote:
>>> I used a wood burning stove for a little while, but not the model
>>> someone asked about. I didn't like having a sticky pot in my pack.
>>> The wood out here, in So Cal anyway, is very resinous and leaves a
>>> sticky residue.
>>>
>>> I'm not really sure why you need a stove if you're going to cook  
>>> with
>>> wood. It doesn't seem to work any faster to use a stove. It just
>>> seems that you use more wood that you have to chunk up into smaller
>>> pieces. A tiny fire works just as well without a stove to cart  
>>> around.
>>>
>>> My friend Lenny cooked on a tiny fire every night the whole way.
>>> Worked for him.
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>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ... when your feeling blue, and you've lost all your dreams, there's
>> nothing like a campfire and a can of beans!
>>  -- Tom Waits
>>
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