[pct-l] Talking gear again! SHELTER

Yoshihiro Murakami completewalker at gmail.com
Mon Dec 13 01:08:36 CST 2010


Dear Whitnee

I have not enough knowledge about the American tent maker. But, at
least I know, the SilNylon  used by Tarptent(may be  many American
tent maker ) is not enough strength against strong rain.

I have used Hilleberg Akto for about 5 years. This is  very strong for
wind and rain. Nowadays, this tent is heavy ( 1.4 Kg for one person )
and expensive( $420 ).  In Japan, this tent is more and more
expensive, then I switched to other maker.

I have bought and tested Vaude Power Lizard UL. (1.0Kg for 1.5 person,
$339). This tent is also very strong for wind and rain. The tent body
is siliconised 20D fabric(3000mm waterproof) and tent flour is 40
laminated fabric (10000mm waterproof ).

I have uploaded some photos and comments at my site:

https://sites.google.com/site/completewalker/equipments/shelter/lizard








2010/12/13 Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>:
> I just looked up the Hyperlight Mountain Gear Echo 1 system and it looks AMAZING! Also AMAZINGLY expensive. You weren't kidding- $400-$500. Really perfect though. I just got $300 to buy my shelter and STILL cannot decide! Hennessy Hammock? Wild Oasis? MLD Solo Mid with netting? Z-Pack's solo hexamid system? Tarptent? I just don't know. Someone please tell me what you used and what you though about it... Thank you!!
>
> Whitnee
>
> P.S. Thanks John for the question... the answers some people gave helped me lighten my load as well
>
> --- On Sun, 12/12/10, John Abela <pacificcresttrail2011 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: John Abela <pacificcresttrail2011 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] My Gear List - Need Some Experienced Thoughts
> To: "PCT L" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 6:52 PM
>
> I love the rain!! It has rained 36 out of the last 39 days here were I live.
> I live in the middle of the Redwood forest and 96% of the time love the
> rain. Something is probably wrong with me, I know ;)
>
> I would say the only time I am really truly miserable is when my sleeping
> environment gets wet. It was for this reason that I ditched my TarpTent
> Moment and went with the HyperlightMountainGear Echo 1 system. The Moment
> was simply unable to keep out the rain mud and muck here were I live. Here
> is a photograph of a typical trail here where I live, this time of year:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/abelajohnb/4619499718/ - When things are this
> bad, the TT Moment simply did not have a high enough bathtub to keep the
> crap out, so, I switched over to the HMG Echo1 as it has a bathtub that is
> somewhere around 8 inches high. It also saved me 5 ounces (yeah, and cost
> twice as much, sigh)
>
>
>
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Sincerely
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Hiro    ( Yoshihiro Murakami )
Blogs http://completewalker.blogspot.com/
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Backpacking for 30 years in Japan
2009 JMT, the first America.
2010 JMT, the second America.
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