[pct-l] stoves?

[Ron Dye]

You are correct in that the flame is almost impossible to see.  I use one
and here are my rules:  1  NEVER leave it unattended - even for a second.  2
If I don't know if it's burning, lower my hand down to the burner to see if
there is any heat.  3  NEVER attempt to add fuel mid-burn.  The stove must
be COLD to do so.  4  ALWAYS clear the ground for at least three feet
diameter.  5  NEVER cook on a table top unless using a heat shield (rock,
steel, etc.)  6  ALWAYS use a wind screen.
There have been several serious fires started using alcohol stoves so we
can't afford to cause more regulation of our hiking by carelessness on our
parts.  If I missed anything feel free to jump in.

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of James F. Miller
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:21 AM
To: Kevin Cook; pct-l
Subject: Re: [pct-l] stoves?


I believe it has to do with the flame from alcohol is very difficult to see
 
> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 09:03:52 -0700
> From: hikelite at gmail.com
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] stoves?
> 
> How would an alcohol stove be more dangerous than a canister stove?
> If either stove got kicks while it was lit, the potential to start a large
> fire is there. Is it because alcohol flames are invisible in the daylight?
> How would that increase the chance of a wildfire?
> Honestly, the pressurized fuel canisters make me more nervous than alcohol
> ever has. Those fuel canisters are essentially grenades that are just
harder
> to ignite, but if it ever happened, I'm afraid of all that shrapnel flying
> around!
> 
> I'm sure there are reasons alcohol is more dangerous, but I'm just
ignorant
> about the ways they are worse.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Jim Keener ( J J ) <
> pct2010 at ridgetrailhiker.com> wrote:
> 
> > Greetings,
> >
> > PCT hikers have started several forest fires. Alcohol stoves are
> > potentially more dangerous than others. The trail traverses some very
> > fire-sensitive areas.
> >
> > I think it is very likely that there will be more limits placed on fire
use
> > along the trail. Self-policing and a very heightened awareness are
> > appropriate.
> >
> > Walk well,
> > Jim Keener ( J J )
> >
> > On Dec 10, 2010, at 7:28 AM, Kevin Cook <hikelite at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I've been using an alcohol stove (Pepsi can style) for years now. I
can't
> > > imagine every using anything else. Every canister stove I've ever seen
> > > weighed more and/or was less stable when cooking. Then there is the
issue
> > of
> > > having to carry 2 canisters when on still has a couple days in it, but
> > not
> > > enough to get through the next section. With an alcohol stove, you
will
> > > always leave town with the right amount of fuel. One can make an
argument
> > > that they, canister stoves, are more convenient, but it's not a strong
> > > argument. My alcohol stove might take longer, but I'm not in a hurry
on
> > the
> > > trail. ;)
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:04 AM, <mctanker at earthlink.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Been using an alcohol stove. Is this the best bet, or should I use a
> > >> cannister stove? Cook water only for breakfast (1 cup) and dinner (2
> > cups).
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Dennis (aka Sunshine)
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