[pct-l] UL ice axes, BPL quote

Ernie Castillo erniec01 at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 9 18:14:57 CST 2010


First a disclaimer.
I hiked the PCT in 1980 and would be classified as a "heavy trucker" for the size pack I carried, not to mention everything in and on top of it. Part of it was because there wasn't the ultra-light equipment 30 years ago; mostly, it was because of my philosophy to carry everything I could possibly need for the conditions I was encountering.
 
So here goes.
 
If I was shopping for gear today, I would look at the type of ice axe I carried (think wooden handle, steel  point, steel head), compare it to the 7-ounce models and ask myself: "Self, if your life depends on an ice axe during a self arrest, which one would you choose?"
 
Self would probably answer: "The same one that stopped you from dropping down a steep slope at the top of Mt. San Jacinto when you were hiking out after a blizzard."
 
Hike your own hike.


Ernie Castillo
erniec01 at hotmail.com
248 884 5201



 
> From: ned at mountaineducation.org
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 16:00:18 -0800
> Subject: [pct-l] UL ice axes, BPL quote
> 
> Over at the BPL site there has been a lively conversation regarding the "Care and Feeding of a ULA Helix Ice Axe" starting back in 2006. http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=3107 On 7/1/06, Peter King stated:
> 
> "The sturdiness and reliability are good questions. I was inspired by our good Dr. Jordan's use of them in mountaineering. I have great respect for his technical judgment and his weight/risk tradeoffs. As he has written, "...there is little room for error. Going superultralight requires that you pay careful attention to every detail and evaluate the consequences of each choice you make..." Climbing, even more than hiking, entails the continuous evaluation of risks, such as the distance between pro, the quality of placements, the rockfall potential of a route, etc. Since the manufacturer has not endorsed the use of the Helix as a full mountaineering axe, perhaps because of liability concerns, we must each evaluate the risk of using it."
> 
> All we can say in the profession of teaching wilderness safety is for thru hikers to take the lightest, strongest, and longest certified axe that has proven itself to "work" for them in practice with ice, rocks, and branches in the snow pack. 
> Uncertified axes are too weak to be rated as sufficient to withstand the forces commonly exerted upon them in general mountaineering use, namely, for thru hiker concerns, use in self-belay, as an uphill anchor, for ice chopping/chipping, or in self-belay. 
> 
> If you look at just the likelihood of emergency need for the technical advantages of deploying an axe in the activities above, they may be very low (how often do you fall down or need to spend an hour chipping ice in the chute at Forester?), but when major injury is the likely result of a slip-and-fall on snow/ice, especially when making any kind of steep ascent or traverse as is the case on all the Sierra Passes in May, June, and maybe July (depending on the winter prior), all it takes is the one time. Ask Calorie.
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