[pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo (stuff sack continued:)

[Paul Robison]

i couldn't agree more,
to add to that note,  if you bag is wet on a corner  (from condensation running 
on it or something) and you stuff it into your stuff sack the entire bag gets 
evenly wet.  with the 'cram in the bottom' method you can leave a bit of it up 
and out of the way of the rest of the bag ...  making it dry out much much 
quicker when you do stop for morning break  (i try to hike about 2 hours, then 
eat... at which time my gear gets dried out)

i've seen people on northern hikes stuff their wet down bags into compression 
sacks,  and it virtually never fluffs back up nice in time to get a good nights 
sleep under it.  you're forcing the water into the down when you do that...
btw,  the Sea to Summit large eVent drysack weighs... 8.5 ounces on my scale 
(they list it as six).  

~Paul




________________________________
From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
To: Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com>
Cc: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>; pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 11:27:40 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo


Good evening, Paul,  
 
I don’t ever stuff – and certainly not compress – my down sleeping bags.  Such 
treatment is damaging to the down, although not quite so much as Jardine 
writes.  By only poking it into the pack it is free to occupy all available 
space, even many nooks and crannies.  Not only is packing more efficient, but by 
its being loose I’m encouraged to drag it out at some sunny break spot for a 
good airing.  If I had laboriously stuffed/compressed the thing I probably 
wouldn’t bother to air it out nearly as much.
 
Steel-Eye
Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT – 1965
http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
http://www.trailjournals.com/SteelEye09


On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Paul Robison <paulrobisonhome at yahoo.com> wrote:

best thing i ever did for my bag, and my pack in general is stop keeping my
>sleeping bag in a stuff sack.
>
>in fact i cut 19 ounces out of my baseweight by being rid of all stuff sacks.
>and i actually fit MORE gear into my pack doing so.
>
>~Paul
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Whitnee Goode <whitneegoode at yahoo.com>
>To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 3:08:53 PM
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
>
>I'm going to try to rip the stuff sack before I go then (not really try, but be
>hard on it) so I don't get stuck on the pct without one. I'm glad you love
>yours! That makes me excited :-) How's the size? It seems like a lot of people
>say it's too small or only for really skinny people. How skinny does one need 
to
>be in order to fit comfortably? What kind of shelter do you have? I'm thinking
>about getting either the Wild Oasis from Six Moons Designs or the the Sublite
>tarptent...
>
>Whitnee
>
>--- On Sat, 12/4/10, Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>From: Lisa Freathy <rainorshinecamper at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [pct-l] sleeping bag - rei sub kilo
>To: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 12:52 AM
>
>
>I LOVE mine!!!
>
>
>The compress sack that came w/ripped at the straps after a couple of trips, but
>they let me take my pick off the shelf for a replacement one. I tore out the
>draw cord last year and ripped a section, (I was using as a blanket while
>lakeside and accidentally stepped on the bag while trying to pull the hood
>closed while walking back to the tent, not the best protection plan). I thought
>they were no longer available at REI so I easily sewed the rip and re-strung 
the
>
>cord rather than return and it seems to be holding up fine where I did the
>repair.
>
>My friend borrows my hubby's sub kilo whenever she goes with me and is buying
>one for herself this week. Great price right now!
> Lisa
>
>
>"Keep close to Nature's heart... and break clear away, once in awhile, and 
climb
>
>a mountain or spend a week in the woods. Wash your spirit clean."
>~ John Muir
>
>
>From: Whitnee Goode whitneegoode at yahoo.com
>
>Just bought one!! AHHH! I hope I made a good choice... can't beat REI's return
>policy though :-)
>
>
>
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