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Joe Johnson
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Fri Apr 30 09:58:47 CDT 2010
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Today's Topics:
1. Cell phone reception north of Section D (Bill Thoms)
2. Re: Cell phone reception north of Section D (Halfmile)
3. Cattle grazing and water quality
(Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com)
4. thru-permit (Dan Zan)
5. Re: Kick-Off (Amanda L Silvestri)
6. Re: thru-permit (AsABat)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:59:52 -0400
From: "Bill Thoms" <wthomsjr at comcast.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Cell phone reception north of Section D
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What can be said about cell phone reception north of Section D up to Kennedy
Meadows? Is it fair to expect at least intermittent reception?
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 12:03:24 -0700
From: Halfmile <list at lon.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cell phone reception north of Section D
To: Bill Thoms <wthomsjr at comcast.net>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Bill,
Check out the cell phone reports here:
http://www.pctmap.net/cell/
And please send updates so the reports will be more useful for future hikers.
-Halfmile
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Bill Thoms <wthomsjr at comcast.net> wrote:
> What can be said about cell phone reception north of Section D up to Kennedy
> Meadows? ?Is it fair to expect at least intermittent reception?
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:02:25 -0700
From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Cattle grazing and water quality
To: Pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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This is pretty interesting.
http://www.sacbee.com/2010/04/25/2703875/bee-exclusive-livestock-
waste.html
Books I've written:
~ Piper's Flight
~ Adventure and Magic
~ Santa Barbara Hikes
http://stores.lulu.com/dianesoini
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 18:00:42 -0400
From: Dan Zan <dan2001 at live.ca>
Subject: [pct-l] thru-permit
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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I will be hiking southbound this year with my wife, and am about to send for the permit.
Do we both need seperate permits? I ask because on the permit itself, there is a question
regarding the number of people in the group.
_________________________________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:54:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Amanda L Silvestri <aslive at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Kick-Off
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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I had a great time at my 5th Kick-off. The organizers and volunteers did a great job and disserve all of our thanks. The venders were wonderful as ever. It is so great to see and feel their products and not just read about them. The gear contest was a lot of fun but I missed the announcement of the winner. Who/what was it? I liked the backpack/tent and the light weight bow fire starter.
Although it was warm during the day, it got cold at night. All the due and condensation on and in my tent froze, burr! I did not get out of my nice warm sleeping bag till dawn even once, even to go to the bathroom.
Everyone was friendly and seemed to be having a good time. There were good people in my camping space. I enjoyed meeting them. I saw old friends from previous hikes and met some of the faces that I know from here and that's always fun.
When driving down, I always drive through Warner Springs, Scissors Crossing and the Mt. Laguna to pick-up hikers and take them into the Kick-Off. This year I drove through about 12:30 PM and there were none to be found and no one had even signed the register at , Scissors Crossing. At the store on Mt. Laguna they told me that about 20 hikers had spent the night there but all caught rides to kick-off before I arrived.
I did see a number of hikers on my way back. I dropped one off at Mt. Laguna. I saw one going up into the San Fellipe Hill and I saw a pair taking off on the north side of Warner Springs.
I hope to see some of you on the trail this year. I wish good hiking to you all.
Shepherd
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> ???1. Re: Trail closures and reroute
> information - where?
> ? ? ? (Donna "L-Rod" Saufley)
> ???2. Shoes (Bill B)
> ???3. Shoes nomo montrail (Bill B)
> ???4. Reppin the PCT in FL (Joshua M)
> ???5. KO (Ground Pounder)
> ???6. Early starts??? 1st hiker hit
> Wrightwood 4/10 (R Johnson)
> ???7. Re: KO (Ground Pounder)
> ???8. 2010 ADZPCTKO photos (Paul Cronshaw)
> ???9. Re: KO (gwschenk at socal.rr.com)
> ? 10. Weather (tom aterno)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:26:12 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
> From: "Donna \"L-Rod\" Saufley" <dsaufley at sprynet.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail closures and reroute information
> - where?
> To: David Ellzey <david at xpletive.com>,
> PCT Listserve
> ??? <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I have a recommendation for Islip Saddle to Agua
> Dulce.? It is NOT official, but would get you here if
> you want to link your footsteps between Mexico and
> Canada.? Contact me off post for more info.
>
> L-Rod
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: David Ellzey <david at xpletive.com>
> >Sent: Apr 24, 2010 11:47 AM
> >To: PCT Listserve <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> >Subject: Re: [pct-l] Trail closures and reroute
> information - where?
> >
> >Darren,
> >
> >A lot of list-serve members at the kick off right now
> so I will try to help out with what I know.
> >
> >As of right now the only detours in SoCal you need to
> worry about are the Sheep Fire and Station Fire in section
> D.
> >
> >As Donna pointed out, the info for the Sheep Fire
> Detour can be found here: http://www.pcta.org/pdf/sheep_fire_detour.pdf
> >
> >Unfortunately there is no official detour for the
> Station Fire yet. Hopefully the PCTA will publish one soon.
> The closure extends from Three Points to Soledad Canyon. The
> frog closure extends from Islip Saddle to three Points and
> requires a road walk, so at this point there is no reason to
> go past Islip Saddle. It seems most of the early hikers have
> been getting off trail at Inspiration Point, going down into
> Wrightwood and arranging rides (or hitching) to Agua Dulce.
> I know there has been talk of finding a combination of
> trails and backroads to get you down from Islip Saddle and
> over to Soledad Canyon but there is nothing official yet.
> >
> >You will have to rely on the PCTA for detours north of
> the Sierras, I don't follow those.
> >
> >BigToe
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Darren Bagnall
> >Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2010 9:47 AM
> >To: PCT Listserve
> >Subject: [pct-l] Trail closures and reroute information
> - where?
> >
> >HI All -
> >
> >People keep posting information such as 'section x is
> mostly closed' or
> >'the frog detour' or 'the equestrian detour' or 'that
> fire detour'. I have no idea
> >what you are talking about. ('cause I am a noob i
> guess) Where do I find this
> >information? I tried pcta.org trail conditions section.
> I did find the post about section D
> >and good general eye witness information but nothing
> about frogs or horses or stinky hikers.
> >
> >Is there a good source of official trail closures,
> reroutes, and maps?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Darren
> >
> >
> >
> >darren bagnall . recruiting
> >interactive . creative . media . animation
> >p: 415.412.6599? twitter: @darren_bagnall
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:38:48 -0700
> From: Bill B <livingsocal at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Shoes
> To: Pct-L <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
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> Hey group. I am a long time user of shoes - montrail hard
> rock? ? They
> changed the model and the reviews are very bad. So any
> opinions on
> what to switch to?? Especially If you were a previous
> hardrock wearer.
> I like Room (I sear shoes loose) and good heal cushioning
>
> Thanks pink Gumby
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:59:27 -0700
> From: Bill B <livingsocal at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Shoes nomo montrail
> To: Pct-L <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Hey group. I am a long time user of shoes - montrail hard
> rock ? ?They
> changed the model and the reviews are very bad. So any
> opinions on
> what to switch to? ?Especially If you were a previous
> hardrock wearer.
> I like Room (I sear shoes loose) and good heal cushioning
>
> Thanks pink Gumby
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:57:23 -0400
> From: Joshua M <jtmlite at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Reppin the PCT in FL
> To: Pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
> ??? <o2of01990421004251757ra8e3d4d3u918f5171c2d46fdf at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> Just got this made and am pretty impressed by the
> quality.? I had a
> pcta.orgtag holder for the back of my car but it fell apart
> pretty
> quickly.
>
> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4548491411_f94a7dc698.jpg
>
> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4549126458_8c78e05540.jpg
>
> Paid $20 bucks for it from rockinplates.com and the guy had
> it in the mail
> with in hours of my inquiries.? He does all sorts of
> custom stuff.
>
> Just thought I would share this for any of you that are not
> required to have
> a front tag and would like to fill that holder with
> something meaningful.
>
> OD
> PCT 08
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:02:50 -0700
> From: "Ground Pounder" <groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] KO
> To: "PCT LIST" <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <000001cae4e4$935973f0$ba0c5bd0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;???
> charset="us-ascii"
>
> "How's Your Trail?"???Back from a very cold
> KO. Thursday was Snow from Santa
> Ysabel? to I -8? Awesome driving through
> it.? Setting up tent in rain was
> not good. Freezing A- - off at night, not good. Overall KO
> very good and
> rejuvenating the Spirit to hike the PCT.? Everyone
> stay safe and love one
> another and Smile be friends don't jump to conclusions, and
> Remember?
>
> "Be Prepared"? Ground Pounder Bill? "Semper Fi"
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:47:34 -0700
> From: R Johnson <rdukes412 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Early starts??? 1st hiker hit Wrightwood
> 4/10
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <BAY121-W1804E8C027314DB4A6CA08E6040 at phx.gbl>
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>
> We had our first 2010 NOBO thru-hiker stay with us here in
> Wrightwood on 4/10. Officially the 1st to register in town.
> We were shocked to get a call so early in the season but
> glad to pick him up. He did have to skip the section after
> Wrightwood due to snow and the undetermined Station Fire
> re-route. Hopefully he does alright in the Sierras being so
> early. . . . I noticed a few other posts about early starts
> and just wanted to chime in and say that YES, there are
> people out there very early - despite the snow. It'll be
> interesting to see if the pack is spread out a little this
> year.
>
>
>
> Good luck everyone - and we can't wait to meet some amazing
> hikers again this year.
>
> Becky
>
>
>
> ? ???
> ????????
> ?????? ???
> ?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 20:49:34 -0700
> From: "Ground Pounder" <groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] KO
> To: "'Marion Davison'" <mardav at charter.net>,???
> "PCT LIST"
> ??? <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
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>
> "How's Your Trail?"? everyone is different but to let
> you know it is
> possible for you, Sure I'm a male, no big deal but I have
> had a
> laminectamy(?) of L-4/5/S1, then six months later a fusion
> of the same, back
> in 89'and 90' then last year right knee replaced, now it's
> Titanium and
> plastic. I have done day hikes and next month will test it
> going from Bird
> Spring pass to Kennedy Meadows, we will see? Remember
> "Be Prepared"? Ground
> Pounder Bill? "Semper Fi"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marion Davison [mailto:mardav at charter.net]
>
> Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2010 7:24 PM
> To: Ground Pounder
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] KO
>
> Ground Pounder wrote:
> > "How's Your Trail?"???Back from a very
> cold KO. Thursday was Snow from
> Santa
> > Ysabel? to I -8? Awesome driving through
> it.? Setting up tent in rain was
> > not good. Freezing A- - off at night, not good.
> Overall KO very good and
> > rejuvenating the Spirit to hike the PCT.?
> Everyone stay safe and love one
> > another and Smile be friends don't jump to
> conclusions, and Remember?
> >
> > "Be Prepared"? Ground Pounder Bill? "Semper
> Fi"
> >
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> Every time I go to kickoff I get the hiker fever
> again--someday I'm
> gonna hike the whole trail!
> At age 53 with two herniated discs and two torn up knees,
> the likelihood
> just keeps going down.? But oh well, I have some good
> section hikes in
> the works for this summer, so I can just keep nibbling at
> it within my
> capacity.
> Marion
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:06:54 -0700
> From: Paul Cronshaw <beemancron at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] 2010 ADZPCTKO photos
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <COL114-W312C9FF4AD14B4AA815D70DF040 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Just back the 12th annual KO.? My third one in a row
> and the best one yet.? What an event!
>
> We arrived at Lake Morena to hear about a terrific
> thunderstorm that dampened the area but not the spirits of
> the hikers and campers.? The weather for this event
> turned out to be fantastic. This has to be the best event in
> KO history; others will agree.
>
> I have posted a few photos at:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/beemancron/2010PacificCrestTrailAnnualKickOff#
>
> Good luck to the class of 2010.
>
> Paul "The Beeman" Cronshaw
> 2008, 2009, 2010 PCT Section hiker
>
>
>
>
>
> ???
> ????????
> ?????? ???
> ?
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 13:46:31 +0000
> From: <gwschenk at socal.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] KO
> To: 'Marion Davison' <mardav at charter.net>,
> ??? Ground Pounder
> ??? <groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net>,
> ??? PCT LIST
> ??? <pct-l at mailman.backcountry.net>
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> ---- Ground Pounder <groundpounderbill22 at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > "How's Your Trail?"? everyone is different but to
> let you know it is
> > possible for you, Sure I'm a male, no big deal but I
> have had a
> > laminectamy(?) of L-4/5/S1, then six months later a
> fusion of the same, back
> > in 89'and 90' then last year right knee replaced, now
> it's Titanium and
> > plastic. I have done day hikes and next month will
> test it going from Bird
> > Spring pass to Kennedy Meadows, we will see?
> Remember "Be Prepared"? Ground
> > Pounder Bill? "Semper Fi"
> >
>
> A friend of a friend has two artificial knees and is
> finishing up the CDT this summer.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 08:44:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: tom aterno <nitnoid1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Weather
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <19883.1734.qm at web33504.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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> The forecast for this week for San Jacinto area and south,
> is a chance of rain showers or snow Tuesday night into
> Wednesday and snow Thursday night into Friday for elevations
> above 6500 ft.? Temperatures Thursday and Friday will
> struggle to get above 40?F (4.4?C).? Good advice from Ground
> Pounder Bill... "Be Prepared" and from Manyon, be flexible.?
>
> ?
> The Incredible Bulk
> ?
>
>
> ? ? ?
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:58:24 -0700
From: AsABat <asabat at 4jeffrey.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] thru-permit
To: Dan Zan <dan2001 at live.ca>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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The permit is a standard US wilderness permit, so one permit CAN cover 2
people. The only reason I can see for getting two separate permits is if you
think you might each hike separately - say one skips a section and hikes in
a side wilderness trail to catch up.
AsABat
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Dan Zan <dan2001 at live.ca> wrote:
>
> I will be hiking southbound this year with my wife, and am about to send
> for the permit.
>
> Do we both need seperate permits? I ask because on the permit itself, there
> is a question
>
> regarding the number of people in the group.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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