[pct-l] False Advertising from Western Mountaineering

[AsABat]

The WM Flight average weight is for the medium size. My XL weighs more,
can't remember how much, but lighter than my Polartec 200 jacket and my MEC
Northern Lite and Polartec 200 jackets, so I carry the lighter, more
compressible, warmer WM Flight and just don't zip it up as much.

AsABat



On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Bill Burge <bill at burge.com> wrote:

>
> Say it ain't so!
>
> At the KO, I bought a WM Flight jacket from the A16 guys.  It is much
> warmer than the Marmot down sweater I was wearing, though to be fair,
> the Marmot was doing a good job for it's size.
>
> So I'm mulling over in my head, when would I carry the WM instead of
> the smaller Marmot sweater?  How much space do I lose in my pack and
> what is the weight "hit"?
>
> So I check the respective websites and the WM site says the average
> weight for the Flight jacket is 10.5oz and the Marmot site says the
> down sweater weighs...  ???  No weight listed?  Dang!  Gotta get out
> the scale...
>
> I toss the WM Flight jacket on the scale and it's 12oz!  12 !?! that's
> NOT 10.5!  So I toss the Marmot on the scale and it's (drumroll....)
> 14oz!  WHAT?!?!  Did I hit my head on something?  Is all the "puff" in
> that jacket HELIUM?  So now, I have to carry this personal toaster-
> oven to SAVE weight!
>
> And don't get me started on the Alpenlite sleeping bag!  THEY say it's
> supposed to be a 30 degree bag and I've had to ventilate the dang
> thing at temps down to almost 20 degrees!
>
> Will this pattern of misrepresentation ever CEASE?!?!  I hope not.
>
> Thank God they have a limited product line, I'm going broke enjoying
> this ridiculously amazing gear.  All I had to do was "pet" the Flight
> jacket and I knew I had to have one.  (It almost purrrrrrsss....)
>
> I wonder what the down pants feel like...   Hmmmm....
>
> BillB
>
>
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