[pct-l] Bear Safety Devices BSDs (was "Using the Ursack without thealuminum")

giniajim jplynch at crosslink.net
Thu Apr 22 20:49:29 CDT 2010


"... or shall be stored as otherwise directed."   There ya go. :)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Matt Thyer 
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  Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 5:46 PM
  Subject: [pct-l] Bear Safety Devices BSDs (was "Using the Ursack without thealuminum")


  I just found the following CFR (Title 36 2.10), which, while it makes
  reference to a method of storing food in the backcountry, it does not create
  a list of approved, commercially available storage devices.  Nor does it
  compel such a list.  In fact, per the regulation, as long as your food and
  garbage are "suspended at least 10 feet above the ground and 4 feet
  horizontally from a post, tree trunk, or other object" while you're camping
  you're good to go.

   

  "(d) Food storage. The superintendent may designate all or a portion of a
  park area where food, lawfully taken fish or wildlife, garbage, and
  equipment used to cook or store food must be kept sealed in a vehicle, or in
  a camping unit that is constructed of solid, non-pliable material, or
  suspended at least 10 feet above the ground and 4 feet horizontally from a
  post, tree trunk, or other object, or shall be stored as otherwise
  designated. Violation of this restriction is prohibited. This restriction
  does not apply to food that is being transported, consumed, or prepared for
  consumption."

   

  (http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr
  <http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=e3de3382e8d7bf30cb
  ce7d69346d65d7&rgn=div8&view=text&node=36:1.0.1.1.2.0.1.6&idno=36>
  &sid=e3de3382e8d7bf30cbce7d69346d65d7&rgn=div8&view=text&node=36:1.0.1.1.2.0
  .1.6&idno=36) 

   

  Any exceptions to the above for specific areas such as Yosemite should be
  called out in Title 36 7.x, but I find no mention of containers or bears in
  this part of the CRF.  I'm actually starting to wonder what's happened, at
  least within the NPS, that they've decided to endorse one set of products
  over another.  Perhaps I'm missing something in the CFR, but I don't see a
  legal requirement for these lists nor is there a compelling jurisdictional
  case made to limit food containers.

   

  Maybe later I'll start looking for a compelling CFR that the NF might use to
  justify a list?  Not a lawyer (engineer actually who worked many years as a
  backcountry guard), but from what I can tell from the regulation, those
  "approved containers" lists are not legally enforceable.  

   

  2 cents .

   

  Matt

  http://bigear.wordpress.com/  

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