On 3/14/09, Nia Schmald <nschmald1 at yahoo.com> wrote: > The Camp 6 point crampons are aluminum and only 7 oz for the pair. > Unlike steel you don't want to walk on rocks at all with them. > http://www.backcountrygear.com/catalog/climbdetail.cfm? I couldn't get them to stay on my Montrail Hardrock.