[pct-l] Rattlesnake training

Tue Mar 3 09:03:04 CST 2009

Ellen did that dog have the avoidance class b/c they are trained to smell the scent of the snakes...just curious cuz I'm boasting on this Patrick guy. I felt like there were two occassions that my Droopy dog scented one and kept me from going down the trail until it was gone

patti

--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Ellen Shopes <igellen at comcast.net> wrote:

From: Ellen Shopes <igellen at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rattlesnake training
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 2:03 AM

Be advised, even with rattlesnake training, you need to keep your dog close, 
at heel.  A friend of mine had her dog envenomated when the dog stopped to 
scent-mark (pee) on a bush.  The dog barely survived with treatment.
Ellen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <jeff.singewald at comcast.net>
To: "CHUCK CHELIN" <steeleye at wildblue.net>
Cc: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rattlesnake training

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>
> Chuck,
>
>
>
> There must be quite a few of them snake wranglers out there. In 2006, 
> Giddyup and I got a hitch off the summit down to Onyx from a couple of 
> snake wranglers. A funny story as we had just started hitching and this 
> truck pulls over in the big wide pull out on the summit just after passing 
> us. Giddyup and I start running down to the car as these two good ol' boys 
> jump out of the car. They were a bit surprised to see us running towards 
> them and sheepishly said they just stopped to relieve themselves of the 
> beverages they had consumed on the drive up from Ridgecrest. Anyhow, when 
> we asked for a ride into Onyx to pickup a few snacks and shared that we 
> were hiking the PCT, they wholeheartedly agreed. They asked about our 
> snake sightings to-date and I shared that I had seen my fair share of 
> rattlers but that Giddyup had yet to see one. The laughed and all but 
> guaranteed Giddyup that he would see one before reaching KM. After a quick 
> stop in Onyx it was back to the trail and within the first mile of that 
> initial climb we nearly stepped on a big 4 1/2 foot rattler with 10 or 11 
> rattles. Probably the biggest I had seen on the trail to date. Needless to 
> say Giddyup was excited. These wranglers told us that they hunted rattlers 
> 5 days a week and had a shop in Ridgecrest where they made jewelry and 
> other fine snakeskin products. Sure would have enjoyed a bit of decoration 
> to wrap around my Tilly.
>
>
>
> Elevator
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "CHUCK CHELIN" <steeleye at wildblue.net>
> To: "Ken Powers" <ken at gottawalk.com>
> Cc: "pct-l" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 4:08:23 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rattlesnake training
>
> Good afternoon, Ken,
>
> I met that old -- but not as old as me -- codger north of Big Bear in '07,
> and took a break to talk with him for a while. He's great fun.
>
> Steel-Eye
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Ken Powers <ken at gottawalk.com> wrote:
>
>> Then there is the option to trail the owner:
>>
>> http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=221603
>>
>> (Just kidding)
>>
>> Ken
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "dicentra" <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
>> To: "CHUCK CHELIN" <steeleye at wildblue.net>
>> Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rattlesnake training
>>
>>
>> Suddenly I'm liking my nice wet woods. Yikes.
>>
>> ~Dicentra
>>
>>
>> http://www.onepanwonders.com ~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
>> http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Rattlesnake training
>> To: "Andrew Jones" <a.freddy.j at gmail.com>
>> Cc: erik at eriktheblack.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
>> Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 6:02 AM
>>
>>
>> Good morning, Andy,
>>
>> I think you're right, the training can't hurt, but here's something that
>> can: http://www.trailjournals.com/photos.cfm?id=217197
>> That was on the south side of Hauser Canyon where the trail was about 4'
>> wide. That guy could probably eat a lap-dog.
>>
>> Steel-Eye
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:41 AM, Andrew Jones <a.freddy.j at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > There's one professional trainer that's been mentioned on the list
>> before:
>> >
>> > http://www.patrickcallaghan.com/
>> >
>> > We're taking our dog to one of his sessions before our through hike. 
>> > I'm
>> > not
>> > sure if one day will be enough to make the training stick, but it's
>> fairly
>> > cheap ($70), and I guess it can't hurt.
>> >
>> > Andy
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