[pct-l] Tp and privys

[Bob Sartini]

but what do you really think?

"EVERYTHING is in walking distance,"
    ......Bamboo Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: patti kulesz 
  To: Michael Chamoun ; GARY HEBERT ; Bob Sartini 
  Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net 
  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] Tp and privys


        PCT...wooohooo!

        Privies....gross...yuk...disgusting...stinky...pewy!


        patti


        --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Bob Sartini <r.sartini at rcn.com> wrote:


          From: Bob Sartini <r.sartini at rcn.com>
          Subject: Re: [pct-l] Tp and privys
          To: "Michael Chamoun" <nano.michael at gmail.com>, "GARY HEBERT" <hikerfedex at gmail.com>
          Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
          Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 9:55 AM


          Is there a policy about privies on the PCT? In many places high use 
          campsites get a privy. I know in the Smokies they have few privies but in 
          high use camping areas not the back country privies seem to make sense.  If 
          we give easy access to the trail than privies might make sense. Packing out 
          the tp is not that big a deal really. Especially in dry areas where it 
          doesn't disintegrate easily. It's also not hard to walk a full 100 yards 
          from a campsite but groups and newbies are not likely to do it nor I think 
          are most thruhikers that reliable.

          Does anyone have any idea about PCT and privies?


          "EVERYTHING is in walking distance,"
              ......Bamboo Bob
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: "Michael Chamoun" <nano.michael at gmail.com>
          To: "GARY HEBERT" <hikerfedex at gmail.com>
          Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
          Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:33 PM
          Subject: Re: [pct-l] burying TP/feces


          > We should NOT wait for "policy" to change in order for backpackers to make
          > the decision to pack out TP.  Backpackers are educated in the sense that
          > they should know how sad and disgusting it is the see these white shit
          > stains out in the wilderness that I consider sacred.  Be thoughtful and
          > conscious. Pack it out. Leave nothing.
          >
          > Nano
          >
          > On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 5:16 PM, GARY HEBERT <hikerfedex at gmail.com> wrote:
          >
          >> I am not aware of any leave no trace or other rule that does NOT allow 
          >> for
          >> burying your feces and TP. They specify distance from streams/water,
          >> campsites, and trails, and how deep the hole should be, etc.
          >> Obviously when a privy is available you should use that. Usually these 
          >> are
          >> in high traffic areas. I too have dug up others' TP, but that's a
          >> density/overuse problem in busy areas/campsites. There are only so many
          >> trees to go behind surrounding a busy campsite. It's not the hiker's 
          >> fault.
          >> They did follow policy.
          >>
          >> I've not read of any policy suggesting I should not bury my TP.
          >>
          >> Was somebody really suggesting hikers should pack out their dog's pooh?
          >> (obviously in a public picnic/park area, sure. but on the trail in the
          >> middle of the woods???)
          >>
          >> Anybody know anything different on the PCT or elsewhere?
          >>
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