[pct-l] Bear Canister Question

[trail-name-here]

The Desolation is a highly popular destination and the rangers are pretty
nice, but they are strictly by the book. One of my hiking buddies was
escorted out by a ranger when he had no permit. It's a show-no-mercy
attitude. Mountain bikers venturing in there have had their pedals removed
followed by an escort to the trailhead. =:0

Hasta la pasta.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen [mailto:reddirt2 at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:12 AM
To: trail-name-here at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Bear Canister Question

Good to know thanks, and that reminds me, though it may not pertain anymore,

that there was a rather strict ranger patrolling Desolation, and from recent

experience over thelast two years, the NFS rangers either have more police 
like policies, or are just getting more strict about the rules. Not 
necessarilly a bad thing unless you met the one I did who was hassling me 
about my photography, which I figured he was having a bad day and had to try

extra hard to just let it slide.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "trail-name-here" <trail-name-here at comcast.net>
To: "'Stephen'" <reddirt2 at earthlink.net>
Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 6:34 AM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Bear Canister Question


> I've never had a problem with bears from Sonora Pass to Carson Pass but, 
> you
> might need to carry your canister past Echo Lake through the Desolation 
> and
> Granite Chief Wilderness to Donner Pass. Tahoe bears are pretty active and
> canisters were required last summer. Bears raided campers at Round Lake
> (near the PCT at Meiss Meadows) last summer. I'll ditch my canister after
> Tahoe.
>
> Hasta la pasta
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Stephen
> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:00 PM
> To: PCT-1
> Subject: [pct-l] Bear Canister Question
>
> After reading a bunch of the threads in the archives it sounds like most
> folks are leaning towards using bear cans rather than relying on stealth.
> My question relates then is the intent to send the canister home after the
> Sierra, say at Echo Lake?  I was considering getting one as my hike will
> begin through the worst part of trash bear territory.  The only time I 
> ever
> had bear trouble was near Blaney hot springs and then probably because I 
> was
> so blown out I hadn't the energy to create much stealth.  I did however
> stack an alarm with poles and pot which sufficed to save the food bag, but

> I
> have never since been too comfortable along popular trails and have always
> avoided hiking in the problem areas near Mammoth and Yosemite.  Now my 
> hike
> goes right through it. But do I really need to carry the container farther
> north through to Lassen, and the rest of N.Cal into OR?  My take on my 
> being
> a very good counter ballance and food hanging artist is that Ihave 
> probably
> been fortunat
> e.  So do I give in and resign myself to carry the bulk and weight and
> sleep well and safe or am I making too much of bear problems outside the
> serious problem areas I mentioned above.  I read a few positive comments
> regarding using the can.  Perhaps the one that stands out most for me is 
> the
> ability to stop and flop just about anywhere, and being wiped out from a
> long day, not have to worry about being here nor there.  In a sense adding

> a
> little weight and bulk adds a little freedom.  I have over ten years
> expience ranbling around in the Sierra and never used the food storage.
>
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