[pct-l] Olallie Lake Resort & Western Snowpack map
Trekker4 at aol.com
Trekker4 at aol.com
Mon Jan 12 07:12:40 CST 2009
Wildheart,
That discussion is off topic, and would take the rest of my life. The
shortest answer is that the average person works into April or May to pay for
the cost of the Federal Government in their lives, a cost going way beyond
the Income Tax; that means half a year to pay for the cost of Federal, State,
and Local governments in their lives. The lose all sense of personal
responsibility for themselves, and expect government to bail them out of their
problems, partly because government takes half their income.
Best near PCT example, to get this 25 miles from on topic, is S CA:
people build hundreds of thousands of homes in brush fire country, don't
fireproof their property, and then expect someone to pay to replace their house.
That's not being responsible. They'll also expect someone to relocate them when
S CA is out of water options, with no more to be stolen from other states and
none in the ground. Or when gas is $10 per gallon and their 30-mile commute,
suburban house is worthless, they'll expect someone to bail them out because
they can't afford that commute. Or, when the big quake comes, they'll expect
someone to rebuild their house built in an earthquake zone.
As to roads, trails, etc: they'd exist without government, and be called
toll whatever. In Nevada Co CA, a PCT county, my gg grandfather and his only
son built a 3.7 mile, privately owned toll road, before CA even existed.
Before the road, it was a trail, with a spring. We're stuck with government, but
the world does and would exist without it. We're both oversimplifying a
bit, so ... end of discussion on this list.
Bob "Trekker"
Big Bend Desert Denizen
Naturalized Citizen - Republic of Texas
Government cripples you, then hands you a crutch and says, 'See, if it
wasn't for us, you couldn't walk.'
-- Harry Browne
"If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs
when its free."
-- P. J. ORourke
In a message dated 1/10/2009 4:23:36 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Jblees at energy.state.ca.us writes:
>>>
Dear Trekker,
I think you are being hypocritical -- even for a "Naturalized Citizen" of
the "Republic of Texas" -- by trashing "government" while
at the same time relying on government ranger stations, government roads,
government snow reports, government fire crews, and on and on and on. If there
were no government there would be no trail (whew! finally steered this sort
of on topic).
But what do you think?
Wildheart
(A California bureaucrat and proud of it)
**********
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 23:35:58 EST Trekker4 at aol.com wrote:
Subject: [pct-l] Olallie Lake Resort & Western Snowpack map
<Snip>
I called the nearby Ranger Station three days ago; he said they were out of
business. <Snip> Since I have
to drive thousands of miles to get to the PCT, my planning page includes
all driving miles also, and all days of time also. I'm also having to pick up
two
unfinished CA fire closure pieces, so the summer will be complicated.
The 1 Jan 09 Western Mountain Snowpack map showed up today:
http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/cgibin/westsnow.pl <snip>
Bob "Trekker"
Big Bend Desert Denizen
Naturalized Citizen - Republic of Texas
Government cripples you, then hands you a crutch and says, 'See, if it
wasn't for us, you couldn't walk.'
-- Harry Browne
"If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it
costs
when its free."
-- P. J. ORourke
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