[pct-l] Bear stories?
susan
woodswitch at hughes.net
Thu Feb 26 09:15:55 CST 2009
I had bear for Thanksgiving Dinner, does that count?
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1. Re: Anyone have bear or mountain lion stories? (patti kulesz)
2. Re: Mojave & Tehachapi (patti kulesz)
3. Re: Mojave & Tehachapi (patti kulesz)
4. Billy Goat on the cover of the PCTA Communicator
(Reinhold Metzger)
5. Re: time before peanut butter goes bad (CHUCK CHELIN)
6. Re: Powdered Foods - Was Resupply (dicentra)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:05:56 -0800 (PST)
From: patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Anyone have bear or mountain lion stories?
To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>, Reinhold Metzger
<reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
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silly Reinhold....I am a very sarcastic person sometimes...ok most of the
time...
patti
--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net> wrote:
From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Anyone have bear or mountain lion stories?
To: "PCT" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:44 PM
> Say Fuzz,
> You sure it wasn't a moose?
> Bears usually walk rather quietly and don't make heavy stomping noises
> wile walking.
> That is why you usually are not aware they are visiting until they
> start messing with your food or gear.
>
> I have lots of bear stories I could tell but, perhaps they are best
> told around a campfire with glowing eyes, in the dark, all around.
>
> Pattie,
> You seem to think that having a bear visit your camp site is going to
> be sooo romantic and exiting? and you want to attract them to your
> camp site for the experience.
> Pattie, as any Sierra veteran can tell you, a bear visiting your camp
> site is not necesarily going to be a romantic and exiting
> experience......it could be a real nightmare and I would strongly
> encourage you to do any thing you can to avoid such encounters instead
> of inviting bears to your camp site.
>
> JMT Reinhold
> A Sierra veteran with many bear stories to tell
> ----------------------------------------------
> Pattie wrote:
>> oo bad bad bad...u can make the critters sick that way...but maybe,
>> since I haven't had a sighting yet, I can just leave the empty bag on
>> the table...woohoo! thanx for the idea Fuzz hehehe
>>
>> patti
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Fuzz McPherson <fuzzmcpherson at yahoo.com
>> <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>> wrote:
>>
>> From: Fuzz McPherson <fuzzmcpherson at yahoo.com
>> <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>>
>> Subject: [pct-l] anyone have bear or mountain lion stories?
>> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
>> <http://mailman.backcountry.net/mailman/listinfo/pct-l>
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:36 AM
>>
>> Does anyone have any bear or mountain lion stories?
>>
>> At a campground in the Coast Range between Portland and Tillamook, so
>> not on the PCT, after having some beers and burgers, I went to sleep
>> in the tent having left part of a bag of chips out on the picknick
>> table.? I know, that's not very bright.? In the night I was woken up
>> by heavy stepping sounds.? It sounded as if a really big heavy guy
>> with workboots was plodding around the table and then off down the
>> very short trail towards the river.? After a few minutes of listening
>> further I didn't hear anything else so I went back to sleep.? In the
>> morning I found the chip bag on the ground in the bushes near the
>> trail to the river.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:14:17 -0800 (PST)
From: patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
To: Pat Wormington <airecrew at netzero.net>, janetgr at cableone.net,
pct-l at backcountry.net, montypct <montypct at gmail.com>
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u don't need to hitch to Mojave...there are trail angels who will pick up
and drop off at the TH
Tehachapi Trail Angels
Ann Marie and George Novinger? (Chairmen of the Tehachapi Trail Angles
661-822-5379.
They will give you a ride to and from the TH. Make sure you specify which
one you are at when you call b/c there are two.
George is at the Apple Shed (yummy food) alot and that # is 661-823-8333.
patti
--- On Wed, 2/25/09, montypct <montypct at gmail.com> wrote:
From: montypct <montypct at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
To: "Pat Wormington" <airecrew at netzero.net>, janetgr at cableone.net,
pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 5:31 PM
I've resupplied in Tehachapi a few times.? Great town for finding things a
hiker needs.? It's very, very spread out.
Last year doing a buy-as-you-go strategy I tried Mojave for my first time.
I got a ride to Motel 6.? It has a great supermarket right there next to it.
Laundry was a short walk from my motel room.? There was a library right
there with internet access, but it was closed.? Resupply was easy and done
in no time.? There was lots of good food cheap at an order over the counter
place next to the motel.? I don't remember a better quick buy-as-you-go town
experience.
A Tehachapi resident friend still ended up picking me up at Hwy 58 the next
day after I hiked another 7 miles.? I went into Tehachapi, saw a movie, had
good coffee and vegetarian food at the local coffee house, and returned to
the trail the next morning.
I've never had an easy hitch to anywhere in this area.
Hitching Hwy 58 into Tehachapi cuts a 25 mile waterless stretch into only 18
miles to Golden Oaks Springs when you return.? In 2007 it took 2 hours to
get a ride with a ride bride, Not-a-Moose.? The post office, a motel and a
Denny's (and a gas station for Heet) are all right there at the highway
exit.? Sending resupply you could be in and out of town without having to
walk the miles required to get around Tehachapi.? Just north of Hwy 58 on
the trail is a very long exposed climb that you do with full water and
resupply.? Starting back at Hwy 58 you can more accurately plan that climb
at a cooler time and start out with a slightly lighter pack.
Lightweight Backpacking
The fun goes up when the weight goes down
-Warner Springs Monty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Wormington" <airecrew at netzero.net>
To: <janetgr at cableone.net>; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:23 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
> If you have a choice Tehachapi is much nicer.? I lucked out and caught a
> ride.? The afternoon bus also stops there on the way to Bakersfield.
> Also better food .? They have a coffee house, Mama Hillybeans, and at
> City Slickers the? food was awesome, huge gourmet hamburger big enough
> for two and 12 beer taps.? I hope to take my husband back there
> sometime.? There is also another restaurant across from Mama's I can't
> remember the name, where I had breakfast.? For hikers getting off at
> Cottonwood Creek, taking Rosamond Blvd. to Rosamond, the M & G Cafe is
> diagonally across from the PO on a side street, which also has the
> senior center farther down the same street, and a county transit bus
> stop.? The Center also has bathrooms you can use to clean up, especially
> after spending the night in a wind storm with a face plastered with dirt.
>
> I stayed in Mojave two nights section hiking, and would not again.? I
> believe it was Day's Inn in Mojave that will pick you up.? There's
> nothing to do in that town except get a haircut, and the grocery store
> isn't handy.? Enjoy your hike.
>
> Jollylopper
> Sierra Valley
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:15:02 -0800 (PST)
From: patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
To: Pat Wormington <airecrew at netzero.net>, janetgr at cableone.net,
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sorry I meant u don't need to hitch to Tehachapi
patti
--- On Wed, 2/25/09, patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
To: "Pat Wormington" <airecrew at netzero.net>, janetgr at cableone.net,
pct-l at backcountry.net, "montypct" <montypct at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:14 PM
u don't need to hitch to Mojave...there are trail angels who will pick up
and drop off at the TH
Tehachapi Trail Angels
Ann Marie and George Novinger? (Chairmen of the Tehachapi Trail Angles
661-822-5379.
They will give you a ride to and from the TH. Make sure you specify which
one you are at when you call b/c there are two.
George is at the Apple Shed (yummy food) alot and that # is 661-823-8333.
patti
--- On Wed, 2/25/09, montypct <montypct at gmail.com> wrote:
From: montypct <montypct at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
To: "Pat Wormington"
<airecrew at netzero.net>, janetgr at cableone.net, pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 5:31 PM
I've resupplied in Tehachapi a few times.? Great town for finding things a
hiker needs.? It's very, very spread out.
Last year doing a buy-as-you-go strategy I tried Mojave for my first time.
I got a ride to Motel 6.? It has a great supermarket right there next to it.
Laundry was a short walk from my motel room.? There was a library right
there with internet access, but it was closed.? Resupply was easy and done
in no time.? There was lots of good food cheap at an order over the counter
place next to the motel.? I don't remember a better quick buy-as-you-go town
experience.
A Tehachapi resident friend still ended up picking me up at Hwy 58 the next
day after I hiked another 7 miles.? I went into Tehachapi, saw a movie,
had
good coffee and vegetarian food at the local coffee house, and returned to
the trail the next morning.
I've never had an easy hitch to anywhere in this area.
Hitching Hwy 58 into Tehachapi cuts a 25 mile waterless stretch into only 18
miles to Golden Oaks Springs when you return.? In 2007 it took 2 hours to
get a ride with a ride bride, Not-a-Moose.? The post office, a motel and a
Denny's (and a gas station for Heet) are all right there at the highway
exit.? Sending resupply you could be in and out of town without having to
walk the miles required to get around Tehachapi.? Just north of Hwy 58 on
the trail is a very long exposed climb that you do with full water and
resupply.? Starting back at Hwy 58 you can more accurately plan that climb
at a cooler time and start out with a slightly lighter pack.
Lightweight Backpacking
The fun goes up when the
weight goes down
-Warner Springs Monty
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Wormington" <airecrew at netzero.net>
To: <janetgr at cableone.net>; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 7:23 AM
Subject: [pct-l] Mojave & Tehachapi
> If you have a choice Tehachapi is much nicer.? I lucked out and caught a
> ride.? The afternoon bus also stops there on the way to Bakersfield.
> Also better food .? They have a coffee house, Mama Hillybeans, and at
> City Slickers the? food was awesome, huge gourmet hamburger big enough
> for two and 12 beer taps.? I hope to take my husband
back there
> sometime.? There is also another restaurant across from Mama's I can't
> remember the name, where I had breakfast.? For hikers getting off at
> Cottonwood Creek, taking Rosamond Blvd. to Rosamond, the M & G Cafe is
> diagonally across from the PO on a side street, which also has the
> senior center farther down the same street, and a county transit bus
> stop.? The Center also has bathrooms you can use to clean up, especially
> after spending the night in a wind storm with a face plastered with dirt.
>
> I stayed in Mojave two nights section hiking, and would not again.? I
> believe it was Day's Inn in Mojave that will pick you up.? There's
> nothing to do in that town except get a haircut, and the grocery store
> isn't handy.? Enjoy your hike.
>
> Jollylopper
> Sierra Valley
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:43:27 -0800
From: Reinhold Metzger <reinholdmetzger at cox.net>
Subject: [pct-l] Billy Goat on the cover of the PCTA Communicator
To: pct-l at backcountry.net, Deems <losthiker at sisqtel.net>, Reinhold
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Hi gang,
I have received several inquiries about seeing Billy Goat's picture
gracing the February cover of the PCT Communicator.
Click the below link in Deem's February 18 post to access Deem's Photo
Galleries, then click ''all galleries'' and you will
see Billy Goat's picture high lighting the ''High Sierra Gallery''
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Monty,
I empathize with your dog encounters. With the mega miles you've hiked, you
will no doubt have increased dog interactions. May they all be friendly.
Last August I met a thruhiker in Washington, named Salty, and captured a
photo of a notorious trail dog attacking a thruhiker. Take a deep breath
before opening the photo...
http://www.pbase.com/losthiker/image/102495801
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 06:33:53 -0800
From: CHUCK CHELIN <steeleye at wildblue.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] time before peanut butter goes bad
To: Zoli Bassoff <zolish at gmail.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Good morning, Zoli,
If I receive a resupply box it will have been packed about two to three
weeks before I use it. When I call home from a trail town my next box will
already be at, or on the way to, the next stop. What I then do is specify
where my stop-after-next box should be sent, the number of trail-days
projected, and the number of Calories per day that it should contain. That
way the food is in transit and stored for two weeks, and it could be in my
pack for another week. Peanut butter, and most hard cheeses and salami,
will tolerate that OK.
At home I much prefer the taste of the all-natural, no-preventives, PB, but
for resupply boxes I use the name-brand stuff that?s chock full of
preventives to keep it from going funky. Yummy.
Steel-Eye
Hiking the Pct since before it was the PCT -- 1965
http://www.trailjournals.com/steel-eye
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Zoli Bassoff <zolish at gmail.com> wrote:
> Reading the post of ideas for storing peanut butter. I was considering the
> idea. If one has to pack up the food boxes months in advance how does one
> pack peanut butter in seperate packages and not have it go bad. Does the
> person mailing the boxes give a hand with the fresh peanut butter and
> cheese items in the food boxes.
>
> thanks
> zoli
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:05:56 -0800 (PST)
From: dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powdered Foods - Was Resupply
To: Stephen <reddirt2 at earthlink.net>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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**hangs head in shame**
OH NO!!! It's all my fault!!!
?
LOL!
?
~Dicentra
http://www.onepanwonders.com?~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
?
--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Stephen <reddirt2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Stephen <reddirt2 at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powdered Foods - Was Resupply
To: "patti kulesz" <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>, "dicentra"
<dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:42 PM
Headline:
Young woman hiking the Pacific Crack Trail lands ends travels in rehab.
----- Original Message ----- From: "patti kulesz" <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>
To: "dicentra" <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powdered Foods - Was Resupply
OMG I love u! thanx for telling me about the powdered coconut creme
milk...coconut milk and surry are like crack to me...I'm drooling
now...hehehe
patti
--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powdered Foods - Was Resupply
To: "dicentra" <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 4:23 PM
Well poo! I put links in that big long post... they didn't show up for some
reason... I have a whole page on my site that lists all the resources. With
working links.
Sorry!
~Dicentra
http://www.onepanwonders.com ~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Powdered Foods - Was Resupply
To: "CHUCK CHELIN" <steeleye at wildblue.net>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 4:17 PM
Hey! Something I know a little something about! Food!!!
I generally get my cheese powder from WinCo. - There's one in Kent, WA.
Harmony House Foods has tomato powder. A little bit goes a LONG way. They
have dried beans and lentils too... you could make your own bean powder from
that, I suppose.
Packit Gourmet has all kinds of powders... butter powder (the full fat
kind), several kinds of cheese powder, beet powder, wine powder (not for
drinking - I tried it, ick!), soy sauce powder, molasses powder, carrot
powder, honey powder, egg powder (several kinds), maple powder, peanut
butter powder, shortening, sour cream, yogurt, tomato, True
Lemon/Lime/Orange (I love that stuff!)...
They have a HUGE selection. From full on meals to dried veggies to shelf
stable meats. Everything I've tried from them is good! Plus they have
awesome customer service (tell them Dicentra sent ya!)
Fantastic Foods makes instant black beans, refried beans and hummus. Just
add water. The falafal and tabbouleh from them is good too.
Powdered butter - aka Molly McButter or Butter Buds can be found either with
the popcorn or with the spices in your regular grocery store.
Powdered milk - look for Nido It comes in a yellow can and is a full fat
product. Usually in the Hispanic section of the store. I can almost always
find it at Albertsons. (milkman is no longer - I'm sad). I recently found a
full fat powdered milk by Backpacker's Pantry, but I haven't tasted it
yet....
Coconut Creme Powder - full of fat and calories! Great for adding to Thai
dishes or breakfast cereal. Sarah at Freezerbag cooking carries it. So does
Packit Gourmet. I find it at the Asian grocery and at the (yuppy) really
well stocked grocery stores that have a big Asian foods section...
Whew. That's a lotta info. I hope it is helpful... Feel free to ask me if
you are looking for a product. I can generally find just about anything food
related. lol.
~Dicentra
http://www.onepanwonders.com ~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
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