[pct-l] dogs on the trail (Long)

[Thatcher Koch]

 you got that right! i carry an ice ax and i will use it.




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From: Bob Bankhead <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
To: Marion Davison <mardav at charter.net>; Pacific Crest Trail List <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 7:08:03 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] dogs on the trail  (Long)

Short reply: any dog that attacks me (or anyone with me) on the trail is a DEAD dog.



--- Original Message ----- 
  From: Marion Davison 
  To: Pacific Crest Trail List 
  Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [pct-l] dogs on the trail (Long)


  I hike with llamas, so I really hate to meet unfriendly and unmonitored 
  dogs on the trail.  They constitute an extreme hazard to my stock.Many 
  dogs don't know what a llama is, so their first reaction is to bark 
  angrily.
  Too many people let their dogs run loose way ahead and sometimes out of 
  sight and don't know what the dogs are doing.  When I see loose dogs and 
  no people in sight, I start hollering for the people to collect their 
  dog.  If people see us coming and don't immediately get their loose dog 
  under control, I politely ask them to do so.

  In 2003 we did two long section hikes in Yosemite and SeKi totalling 40 
  nights.  On 8 of those nights we had a bear in our camp.  Since some of 
  these bears looked on my llamas as a tasty snack, and a bear killed 
  someone else's llama while we were in SeKi, we were very uncomfortable 
  with the bears.  So, since then, we have hiked outside the parks on 
  other sections of PCT and adjoining trails, and we have brought a medium 
  or large dog with us as a herd guard.  We have not seen a single bear 
  for the last 5 years, so I agree that, outside the parks, a dog is a 
  great bear deterrent.  Bear hunters  sometimes use dogs, so bears 
  outside the parks associate dogs with mortal danger.
  On the other hand, coyotes are attracted to our dog in camp.  They will 
  come right into camp as soon as it is fully dark, calling loudly, trying 
  to attract our dog out into the open away from camp.  We have been told 
  that the coyotes want to jump the dog and have her for dinner.  So when 
  we hear coyotes howl we immediately bring our dog into our tent.  The 
  coyotes give up and leave eventually.

  When I am allowed to let my dog walk loose, I do, and I have trained her 
  to ignore other hikers and stock.  This took time and patient training 
  when she was young.  I won't allow her to bark at or approach other 
  hikers and she has to stay by my stock as we walk.
  When I am in an area where I have to have her on a leash, I do, but I am 
  constantly aware that this puts me in danger.  On rough trails I have 
  fallen a few times because of the actions of my leashed dog, and got 
  pretty badly bruised/scraped up a couple of times.  It is annoying when 
  hiking through leash required areas when we meet so many people who 
  aren't obeying the law, and their loose dog rushes up to my leashed dog.

  One day as I hiked past someone's camp on the Tahoe section of the PCT, 
  his loose dog rushed out and bit me on the leg.  I was not thrilled by 
  that experience either.

  I took my  medium size short haired dog on a section hike of Section D 
  in late March.  She was doing fine on the cooler days at the higher 
  elevations, but on the last day hiking from North Fork to Soledad canyon 
  the temperature was 100 degrees, and she was totally suffering.  She 
  also picked up dozens of ticks in the chapparal which took about a week 
  to remove.  The ticks didn't get us, just her.  I often take my big dog 
  on Section C hikes in the Spring and she hasn't found any ticks yet, 
  thank goodness.  But I check her very carefully after every trip.
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