[pct-l] to all coffee lovers
Richard Bazley
bazleyr at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Feb 13 18:09:48 CST 2009
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1. Re: To all the coffee lovers (dicentra)
2. Re: 400 PCT Waypoints and counting... (Ken Powers)
3. navigational adjustments for Harrison JMT mapset
(David Plotnikoff)
4. Bivy's, sneering (Brian Lewis)
5. (no subject) (Engraving Pros)
6. Re: To all the coffee lovers (Engraving Pros)
7. Re: Whitewater Trout Farm (George Wysup)
8. Re: To all the coffee lovers (virgil)
9. Re: To all the coffee lovers (dicentra)
10. Re: 400 PCT Waypoints and counting... (jeff.singewald at comcast.net)
11. Re: To all the coffee lovers (Thomas Jamrog)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:32:40 -0800 (PST)
From: dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] To all the coffee lovers
To: Christa Wellman <wellmanstudios at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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You've got a few choices...
Instant (the Freeze dried stuff from Trader Joes is good, the mainstream brands
are not)
Tea Bag type - Folgers and Milstone both make them. I use 2 per cup
JavaJuice - Highly concentrated coffee. Add to hot water. Comes in plain and
flavors
Coffee Press - Messy and heavy
there are other ways to make coffee on the trail, but these are what I've
tried and what works for me. These days I do the JavaJuice thing.
HTH,
Dicentra
Dicentra, thanks for the heads-up on the coffee. Reluctantly, I always go instant, but it's a worry: for me, much more than crampons and ice axes and varieties of mapping - you gotta get your priorities right!
St Rick
http://www.onepanwonders.com?~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
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From: Christa Wellman <wellmanstudios at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] To all the coffee lovers
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:16 PM
Anyone know how to do a good cup of Joe on the trail?
? ? ?
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:34:45 -0800
From: Ken Powers <ken at gottawalk.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] 400 PCT Waypoints and counting...
To: "Postholer"
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I can't tell what Postholer is using to place the waypoints on the map. I
like using GPSBABEL with its GUI interface to move Waypoints, Routes and
even Tracks around. It converts to many programs native filetypes and loads
to most GPS's. If Postholer would provide the waypoints as a GPX file (or
any of lots of other filetypes GPSBABEL supports) the loading of 400
waypoints would take less than a minute to load them to the GPS. You can
download GPSBABEL from the web for free.
Nice addition to your already nice website, Scott.
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:43 AM
Subject: [pct-l] 400 PCT Waypoints and counting...
We've added 400 waypoints to the PCT map, from Campo to Sierra City.
More are coming...
http://postholer.com/gmap/gmap.php?trail_id=1&markertype=14
These waypoints consist primarily of water, roads, major dirt roads, caches,
creeks, passes and trail junctions.
Barring any blantant errors, these waypoints should be accurate within 250
feet of the location.
-postholer
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Journals : http://Postholer.Com/journal
Mobile : http://Postholer.Com/mobi
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 19:31:49 -0800
From: David Plotnikoff <david at emeraldlake.com>
Subject: [pct-l] navigational adjustments for Harrison JMT mapset
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Hello from a longtime list lurker.
As I was reviewing my maps and outline for the coming PCT season, I
noticed something small but significant that had entirely escaped me
in previous years:
If you're switching from NGS Topo! or guidebook maps to the Tom
Harrison mapset for the JMT segment between Whitney and Tuolumne
Meadows (a very common thru-hiker strategy) you'll want to reset your
GPS, your watch, your (fill in device here) to UTM *and* the 27 NAD
dataset. (Not to wonk out on you here, but the default settings for
most devices are lat/long and 84 dataset.)
I'd muddled through the last time with lat/long on the Harrison maps
with a little 3x5 card homemade cheat-sheet gauge. Only today did I
realize it's better to switch to UTM but it's also imperative to
switch the base settings to 27 NAD as well. It's right there clearly
marked on the Harrison cover sheet, and I'd never put two and two
together before.
Good luck to all in the Class of 2009.
DP
Campo-Manning 2000-2006, again! 2007-?
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:00:02 -0800
From: Brian Lewis <brianle8 at gmail.com>
Subject: [pct-l] Bivy's, sneering
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Eric said: ". . . people with lighter packs always sneer at people with
heavier packs. It's just the natural order of things. "
My own experience was that it wasn't the natural order of things; perhaps I
was just fortunate in the folks I hung out with, but my sense was that the
types of people to get hung up that much about gear are the ones less likely
to still be on the trail after the first few weeks. Of course hikers
always like to talk gear, but I hiked with some people that I (and others)
respected very much that had old heavy, clunky gear. Heck, if anything I
respected them more for that, doing the miles (with never a complaint) with
inexpensive gear. I will admit that infrequently (particularly
JMT'ers in the Sierras), it was hard to not see a difference between the
volume and doubtless weight of gear carried by more "normal" hikers
vs. what
thru-hikers had. Bottom line though is that I would suggest efforts to
rationally lighten your load to make your overall trip more pleasant, but
not based on what others might think of you.
Bivy sacks: In a way, I like the bivy approach very much insofar as you can
tuck into a sleeping area in the minimal possible footprint. I'm not a
fan
of the heavier, "complete tent replacement" approach, even if the
bivy does
have a hoop to keep the netting off your face. One reason is that I don't
feel secure with such a setup in heavy/steady rain (bivy fabric sitting
right on my sleeping bag), but more importantly, it's no fun on warm buggy
nights. I've spent a night or two with a heavy bivy where being inside the
bivy was highly desireable to keep the bugs off, yet too warm in there even
if not in my sleeping bag. In a single wall tent, I never had that problem.
I think a really light weight bivy can be good, one that's not meant to
stand alone, but used in conjunction with a tarp or (better IMO) a dual use
poncho-tarp. My inexpensive Oware brand light bivy weighs 6.4 oz. No
hoop, tie up the mesh to poles or something if bug proofing is required.
Or consider one of these "bug bivy" options:
http://tinyurl.com/catp8o
http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=55&bc=no
Brian Lewis / Gadget '08
http://postholer.com/brianle
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:00:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Engraving Pros <mail at engravingpros.com>
Subject: [pct-l] (no subject)
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Coffe
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:03:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Engraving Pros <mail at engravingpros.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] To all the coffee lovers
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Coffee singles work pretty well. Like a tea bag but?with coffee.
But if you are hard core you have to go with the single coffee
cup filter for drip.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:08:31 -0800
From: "George Wysup" <georwy at charter.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Whitewater Trout Farm
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Cc: ksksksks at cox.net
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New owner of Whitewater Trout Farm is 'Wildlands Conservancy'. This
organization is similar in nature (pun intended) to Nature Conservancy, but
operates only in So Cal. It will probably be OK to visit, but I don't know
if they will let anyone overnight there. And they surely will not take resupply
there (my opinion, knowing this org).
Ol' Fahrt
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:15:50 -0800
From: virgil <virgil at baloney.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] To all the coffee lovers
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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On Friday, February 13, 2009 3:03:13 Engraving Pros wrote:
> Coffee singles work pretty well. Like a tea bag but?with coffee.
> But if you are hard core you have to go with the single coffee
> cup filter for drip.
And if you're just plain deranged (like me), you'll carry a quad shot
espresso
maker.
--
"I came into this game for adventure - go anywhere, travel light, get in,
get
out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone."
Robert De Niro as Harry Tuttle in Brazil.
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:44:05 -0800 (PST)
From: dicentra <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] To all the coffee lovers
To: Stephen <reddirt2 at earthlink.net>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Another thought... There are also tea bags you can get. Fill and seal your own
coffee teabags. I've seen them on Amazon. I've never tried them, but I
have friends who have and like them. Too much trouble/work for me, but it is
another option if you are addicted to a certain coffee. :)
?
~Dicentra
http://www.onepanwonders.com?~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
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--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Stephen <reddirt2 at earthlink.net> wrote:
From: Stephen <reddirt2 at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] To all the coffee lovers
To: "dicentra" <dicentragirl at yahoo.com>, "Christa
Wellman" <wellmanstudios at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 2:44 PM
Another thought on trail coffee.
I love my rich french roast that I make at home and on the trail, but I am
looking at ounces for the longer hike I am trying to plan.? I ussually bring
along one of those 16oz plastic insulated mugs with lid.? Keeps coffee warm for
those relaxing mornings in beautiful places.? But it weighs 5 or 6 ozs and if I
do instant I pour stir, add a shot of cool water in a light weight sigle wall
cup and I'm off.? Not only is the instant a heck of a lot less messing
around and lighter, it is also less bulky, cheaper, and so forth. So I can save
more weight all around at the risk of probably drinking less coffee over all
which would be better anyway.? So I'll probably start off with a little of
both and give up the Frech Roast by Echo Lake ( I will be hiking into VVR from
around Bishop.) .
----- Original Message ----- From: "dicentra"
<dicentragirl at yahoo.com>
To: "Christa Wellman" <wellmanstudios at yahoo.com>
Cc: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:32 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] To all the coffee lovers
You've got a few choices...
Instant (the Freeze dried stuff from Trader Joes is good, the mainstream brands
are not)
Tea Bag type - Folgers and Milstone both make them. I use 2 per cup
JavaJuice - Highly concentrated coffee. Add to hot water. Comes in plain and
flavors
Coffee Press - Messy and heavy
there are other ways to make coffee on the trail, but these are what I've
tried and what works for me. These days I do the JavaJuice thing.
HTH,
Dicentra
http://www.onepanwonders.com ~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra
--- On Fri, 2/13/09, Christa Wellman <wellmanstudios at yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Christa Wellman <wellmanstudios at yahoo.com>
Subject: [pct-l] To all the coffee lovers
To: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:16 PM
Anyone know how to do a good cup of Joe on the trail?
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:45:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: jeff.singewald at comcast.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] 400 PCT Waypoints and counting...
To: Ken Powers <ken at gottawalk.com>
Cc: Postholer <public at postholer.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
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If a GPX file is available, one can use free software such as EasyGPS to
download to Garmin GPS units.? I got into Geocaching last year and frequently
load 500 - 1000 waypoints at a time via EasyGPS and it requires less than 30
secs. via a USB connection.
Lots of choices out there to upload.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Powers" <ken at gottawalk.com>
To: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>, pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 2:34:45 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [pct-l] 400 PCT Waypoints and counting...
I can't tell what Postholer is using to place the waypoints on the map. I
like using GPSBABEL with its GUI interface to move Waypoints, Routes and
even Tracks around. It converts to many programs native filetypes and loads
to most GPS's. If Postholer would provide the waypoints as a GPX file (or
any of lots of other filetypes GPSBABEL supports) the loading of 400
waypoints would take less than a minute to load them to the GPS. You can
download GPSBABEL from the web for free.
Nice addition to your already nice website, Scott.
Ken
----- Original Message -----
From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 9:43 AM
Subject: [pct-l] 400 PCT Waypoints and counting...
We've added 400 waypoints to the PCT map, from Campo to Sierra City.
More are coming...
http://postholer.com/gmap/gmap.php?trail_id=1&markertype=14
These waypoints consist primarily of water, roads, major dirt roads, caches,
creeks, passes and trail junctions.
Barring any blantant errors, these waypoints should be accurate within 250
feet of the location.
-postholer
------------------------------------
Trails : http://Postholer.Com
Journals : http://Postholer.Com/journal
Mobile : http://Postholer.Com/mobi
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:27:34 -0500
From: Thomas Jamrog <balrog at midcoast.com>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] To all the coffee lovers
To: Christa Wellman <wellmanstudios at yahoo.com>
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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Boil water. Place ground coffee of your choice in MSR mesh filter
filter. Place in cup. Pour in boiling water. Place something to
cover the unit. Busy yourself for 5 minutes. Remove filter with wet
grounds. Drink coffee. Repeat as often as needed. Works slick.
Uncle Tom
Blogging about the Great Outdoors
on http://tjamrog.wordpress.com ( hotlink)
On Feb 13, 2009, at 3:16 PM, Christa Wellman wrote:
> Anyone know how to do a good cup of Joe on the trail?
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