[pct-l] Cramming a BV450

[Michael Chamoun]

Legal, schmegal.
I've had rangers "check" my canisters before. They look at the outside of my
pack and clearly see a cylindrical indentation.  If they want more than
that, well, I'll just start running ;) I hike until dark too so I'll try to
be discrete when im in camp.
Anyway, I'll take my chances on not getting stopped in June.

The URSACKS can be bigger because they have the ability to expand.
If it worked in '06 it'll work in '09. (plus i never got checked then) :)

Nano

On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 9:47 PM, patti kulesz <peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> yeh but they're not allowed in the sierras which is the only place u need
> the canister...I think they are smaller too. If a ranger asks you to see the
> canister which some can be buttheads about...u'll be escorted off the trail
> and possibly fined...it's not worth it I'm thinking.
>
> patti
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 1/31/09, Michael Chamoun <nano.michael at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Michael Chamoun <nano.michael at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Cramming a BV450
> To: "Erik The Black" <erik at eriktheblack.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Saturday, January 31, 2009, 9:43 PM
>
>
> I think I'm on board with you on that Erik.  I have an Ursack (with the
> liner though) sitting in my closet.  I used it on the JMT in '06 and it
> worked perfectly.  It fits 7-8days of food and weighs (with aluminum liner)
> 19 oz.  A whole lot better than the current (gulp)... 40 oz!
>
> Nano
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 9:37 PM, Erik The Black <erik at eriktheblack.com<http://mc/compose?to=erik@eriktheblack.com>
> >wrote:
>
> > I carried the larger BV500 (or whatever they called the big one back
> then)
> > through the Sierra in '07, and could barely fit four days of food inside!
> >
> > Of course anyone who has read my blog knows that I'm a hearty eater. I
> > can't
> > imagine eating only 2,500 calories a day. Especially in the high Sierra -
> > the steepest, rockiest, toughest, snowiest, mosquitoeiest, highest
> section
> > of the whole trail. That stretch, more than any other, calls for big-time
> > calorie consumption!
> >
> > In the future I will use an Ursack. I know they aren't "officially
> > approved"
> > but I don't really care that much about meeting requirements and
> following
> > rules. I just want a practical way to keep bears out of my food.
> >
> > It would take a really determined bear to break into an Ursack. Plus,
> with
> > all the "low hanging fruit" from JMT hikers camping by the lakes,
> roasting
> > marshmallows and frying fish over the campfire, there are a lot more
> > attractive targets for the lazy Sierra bears.
> >
> > Smoky would really have to have a craving for your stale Ramen noodles to
> > hike way up into the mountains where you're dry-camped and gnaw through a
> > Vectran bag for an hour and a half to get to it.
> >
> > An Ursack only weighs about 8 ounces and holds almost a much as the big
> > Bearvault. Two of them combined fit perfectly in the top of most packs,
> and
> > that gives you 1,300 cubic inches of "almost" bear-proof food storage,
> for
> > only 1 pound of extra weight.
> >
> > My Bear Vault is now a container for storing loose change ;)
> >
> >
> > -Erik The Black
> > www.eriktheblack.com
> >
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