[pct-l] Camera access locations

Hannah Brewster hwb7285 at mac.com
Mon Dec 28 21:03:56 CST 2009


I carried a Canon Digital Rebel XT on my thru-hike this past year.  I  
stand by the durability of Canon SLRs and just carried mine on a  
shoulder strap that I wore over one shoulder (like a messenger bag)  
with the camera hanging at my side.  It takes a little fiddling to  
get the strap length right so it doesn't bang against your stomach  
with every step but you can still get the camera to your face  
easily.  When it was raining or windy and dusty I would put the  
camera in a gallon ziploc in my pack.  If it was really raining I  
would put the ziploc inside the trash bag I kept my sleeping bag in.   
If I had extra clothing I would wrap it around the camera for some  
padding.  There were a lot of skeptics about the livelihood of my  
camera at the beginning of the trail and I am proud to say it made it  
through the whole trail, most of the time hanging around my neck, and  
is still working just fine.  It looks a little battered, I like to  
call it well loved, but it is only cosmetic.  I  hiked with a 35mm  
Rebel before the digital one and I am fully convinced of the  
durability of Canon cameras.  So if you want to bring your SLR but  
don't like the idea of a big camera bad strapped to your front  
somewhere, know that a gallon ziploc, an extra shirt, and a little  
love will work just as well.

Ginger Snap '09


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>    5. Re: cold sweaty back (Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com)
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>       that? (virgil)
>    7.  Camera access locations (Sean Nordeen)
>    8. Re: Camera access locations (Yoshihiro Murakami)
>    9.  cold sweaty back, bright colors (Sean Nordeen)
>   10.   cold sweaty back, bright colors (Sean Nordeen)
>   11.  early prediction of Sierra Snow 2010 (Postholer)
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 13:54:37 -0800
> From: Josh <559josh at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camera access locations
> To: <ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com>,	"'PCT MailingList'"
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> My Osprey Exos has some lil 'bungees' that are used to store  
> walking poles.
> I use a crab & clip my camera's hand strap to this stretchy cord.  The
> Camera hangs near my chest and I can grab it in an instant without
> un-clipping it (the stretchy cord works like a charm).  I've found  
> that
> sometimes the rustling of unzipping a pouch or whatever will scare  
> away some
> smaller wildlife, so this works pretty good 4 me.
>
> J
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com
> Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:20 PM
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> Subject: [pct-l] Camera access locations
>
> It has come to our attention that the backpacking camera is not  
> always handy
> when suddenly desired to take that quick, spontaneous picture.
>
> Where is a good place to carry your camera?
>
> Of course, it depends on the size and weight of the camera. I would  
> imagine
> that the little digitals could be carried in a shirt pocket or side  
> pocket
> of a pack, but how about for those of us who want to capture our  
> images
> through an SLR?
>
> For years I carried mine high up on my Kelty's top where I could  
> get it
> simply by reaching up and unwrapping its shoulder strap from around  
> the
> frame extension bar, which kept it from moving too far
>
> Are there any other options other than a chest or frontal waist  
> carrier?
>
> Mtnned
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:06:38 -0800 (PST)
> From: Keith Robertson <surferkeith at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] cold sweaty back
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> An internal frame pack that allows for an air space between the  
> pack and your back along with a merino wool shirt should do the  
> trick. Probably won't work for ultralighters though.
>
> Handyrock
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 22:13:41 +0000 (UTC)
> From: enyapjr at comcast.net
> Subject: [pct-l] early prediction of Sierra Snow 2010
> To: pct-l <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Cc: kmurray at pol.net
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>> As many know, I've given the snow travel talk at the Kick Off the  
>> last few years,
>> so I watch the snow pretty carefully throughout the season.
>>
>> Almost without exception, the early season of snowfall tends to  
>> give the story for
>> the year.  Although it is very early, yet, we are looking at an  
>> average to below
>> average year again.  I throw this out there for planning purposes,  
>> with the full
>> understanding that thing could change dramatically.
>> ...
>> <http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/products/PLOT_SWC.2010.pdf>
>
> IMHO, "Almost without exception" is really stretching it!  December  
> is too early to tell
> what the entire winter/spring snow season will bring...  One  
> doesn't have to go back too far
> to see an "exception" - <http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cgi-progs/ 
> products/PLOT_SWC.2006.pdf> ...
> December, 2005, was near 'normal' - then heavy snow in early  
> January and a long snowy
> period in March & early April resulted in a substantial snowpack  
> (150-175% of 'normal')...
> If one looks through the records, there are many other  
> "exceptions", also - unfortunately
> those nice, easy to read graphs linked above only go back a handful  
> of years.   :-(
> I'm not predicting what the 2009/2010 snow season will bring - only  
> stating that it's too
> early to make any decisions regarding snow quantity...
> There is also another factor that most don't discuss much regarding  
> the snowpack - temperature,
> and how it may hinder or enhance the melt off...  That can also be  
> 'seen' (inferred) in some
> of the graphs (change the year in the URL to see other graphs in  
> addition to those links above)...
>
> 2010 thrus - have patience and "wait & see" what the season  
> brings...  The April 1st
> prognosticators will give their Sierra WAGs - then you, too, can  
> 'guess' what will actually
> happen between April and June to 'finalize' your plans, but do plan  
> to be 'flexible'!   :-)
>
> Happy trails!!!
> Jim (PITA)
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:25:00 -0800 (PST)
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> Subject: [pct-l] I can't leave any messages with a body. What's up
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> From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
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> Subject: Re: [pct-l] cold sweaty back
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> The Osprey packs have a nice trampoline-like structure against the
> back that keeps your back cool.
>
> If you believe that internal frame or frameless packs do not carry
> weight on the pelvis, then you are incorrect.
>
> As for colors, I prefer neutrals to other colors, and I also prefer
> logos to be small and unobtrusive. Some people hate logos with a
> passion. I also prefer gray tents to other colors because I don't
> like the whole world turning pink (or some other color) from the
> retinal effect of strong colors. Overall, most people don't seem to
> get all bent out of shape over the color of other people's gear.
>
> Diane
>
> On Dec 28, 2009, at 1:53 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net wrote:
>> One answer to this question is to select a pack that carries its
>> weight on
>> your pelvis rather than your back, for example the frame pack.
>>
>> Another related question I have for the List is, do internal frame
>> packs
>> that constantly receive moisture from your back, ever mold??
>>
>> Mtnned
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>> Ok, here's something probably familiar to all of us.  You're
>>> hiking along,
>>> take a short break either with your pack off or sitting down with
>>> your
>>> pack
>>> hanging back off your back.  You get up to go and the pack
>>> reconnects with
>>> your back with a nice freezing cold wet smack.  Your back gets all
>>> sweaty
>>> while you're hiking and as soon as you take the pack off the
>>> breeze cools
>>> off both your wet shirt and the front of your damp pack.  I recall
>>> that
>>> happening with regularity and not enjoying it at all.
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:06:49 -0800
> From: virgil <virgil at baloney.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] I can't leave any messages with a body. What's up
> 	with	that?
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> I always found that just leaving a body was message enough...
>
> Oh! you mean e-mail... never mind.
>
> -- 
> "I came into this game for adventure - go anywhere, travel light,  
> get in, get
> out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone."
>
> Robert De Niro as Harry Tuttle in Brazil.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:41:49 -0800
> From: "Sean Nordeen" <sean at lifesadventures.net>
> Subject: [pct-l]  Camera access locations
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <5D912162DDF740B38F6D24F3A4610785 at SeanDeskTop>
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> I carried a HD camcorder on the trail this year.  Due to the  
> circular shape of a camcorder, any lens case works well and can be  
> attached to the shoulder, sternum strap or hipblet.  I carried a  
> large soft sided Op/Tech Lens Pouch which only weighs 3.2oz but  
> offers padding and water resistance that I hung off the D-Ring on  
> my shoulder strap.  I sewed an elastic band to the lower half of  
> the case to hold it to the shoulder strap.  When it would rain or  
> snow, I'd add a half-gallon ziplock over the camcorder.  The  
> camcorder road comfortably there and was always available for quick  
> access.  I'd hike the trail again with a similar arrangement.
>
> Other hikers that I ran into, who carried a SLR, usually had a just  
> large enough camera bag with a belt hoop and they carried it on  
> their hipbelt strap.  A few others had a fannybag style camera case  
> and wore it above their hipbelt.   I'm sure those cases with a  
> shoulder strap could be modified easily to mount to the shoulder/ 
> sternum straps easily.  The advantage of these bags was they could  
> also put their cellphone/wallet in it and easily carry it with them  
> when leaving their backpack behind.  My lens case was too well  
> mounted to my shoulder strap to quickly be removed so I had to pull  
> the camcorder out and carry it by hand everytime I left my pack  
> behind.
>
> But really, all that is needed is some sort of bag/sack with a  
> little padding and a way of mounting it to your straps in a  
> convienent manner.
>
> -Sean "Miner" Nordeen
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:45:06 +0900
> From: Yoshihiro Murakami <completewalker at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Camera access locations
> To: ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com
> Cc: PCT MailingList <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I am using Olympus E-3 with 12-60 zoom.  A very heavy camera.  My
> backpack is mountain hardware Solitude. The best position of SLR I
> think is left side of abdomen.  I  attached the Lowepro camera case
> with  a Dry Lib belt. I cannot explain exactly in English. Please see
> my HP:
>
> http://psycho01.edu.u-toyama.ac.jp/solitude.html
>
>
>
>
> 2009/12/29  <ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com>:
>> It has come to our attention that the backpacking camera is not  
>> always handy when suddenly desired to take that quick, spontaneous  
>> picture.
>>
>> Where is a good place to carry your camera?
>>
>> Of course, it depends on the size and weight of the camera. I  
>> would imagine that the little digitals could be carried in a shirt  
>> pocket or side pocket of a pack, but how about for those of us who  
>> want to capture our images through an SLR?
>>
>> For years I carried mine high up on my Kelty's top where I could  
>> get it simply by reaching up and unwrapping its shoulder strap  
>> from around the frame extension bar, which kept it from moving too  
>> far
>>
>> Are there any other options other than a chest or frontal waist  
>> carrier?
>>
>> Mtnned
>>
>>
>>
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>
> -- 
> Sincerely
> --------------- --------------------------------------
> Hiro    ( Yoshihiro Murakami )
> HP:http://psycho01.edu.u-toyama.ac.jp
> http://picasaweb.google.co.jp/CompleteWalker/
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:52:40 -0800
> From: "Sean Nordeen" <sean at lifesadventures.net>
> Subject: [pct-l]  cold sweaty back, bright colors
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>>> What do hikers think of bright-colored clothing or equipment in  
>>> the wilderness?
>
> I prefer more natural colors in the wilderness.  Some of that  
> attitude was shaped by believing those rumors that blue attracks  
> bees (or at least bright flowerly colors), and some of it is  
> because I like to blend into the landscape more especially since  
> I've camped on the edge of town on a few occasions when going for a  
> resupply when the hotels were full.
>
> I like khaki/brown/tan/green for most of my clothing and gear.  But  
> I'll make acceptions if a piece of gear is more functional or  
> lighterweight even if I have to go with a less then preferred  
> color.  My current tarp is white because its the only color that  
> was offered for cuben-fiber until recently and I loved the weight/ 
> strength of the fabric.  My rain coat is blue, but that was because  
> that was the only color offered for that model which was the  
> lightest weight gortex jacket offered in 2006.  Now I do use an  
> Orange pack color, but it does double duty as protection against  
> hunters so that made it a rare preferred exception.
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:57:02 -0800
> From: "Sean Nordeen" <sean at lifesadventures.net>
> Subject: [pct-l]   cold sweaty back, bright colors
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>>> Now I do use an Orange pack color, but it does double duty as  
>>> protection against hunters so that made it a rare preferred  
>>> exception.
> Correction, I use an Orange pack COVER.  My actuall backpack is ULA  
> green.
>
> -Sean "Miner" Nordeen
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:23:24 -0800
> From: "Postholer" <public at postholer.com>
> Subject: [pct-l]  early prediction of Sierra Snow 2010
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>> Almost without exception, the early season of snowfall
>> tends to give the story for the year.
>
> "Almost without exception" is the troublesome part!
>
> Based on the last 9 years that is not an accurate statement. I  
> haven't done
> the diligence for the last 30 years, but I will shortly. Even without
> looking at 30 years, the "Almost without exception" has already  
> left the
> building. Here's a quickie:
>
> 4 of the last 9 years started above normal (Jan 1), at most 2 were  
> above
> normal on Apr 1 or Jun 1. Your statement is true 33% of the time.
>
> Decide for yourself. Select all years except cur, min, max and look  
> at the
> graphs, particularly the southern graph as this is the one that most
> concerns hikers: http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/snowapp/ 
> swcchart.action
>
> -postholer
>
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