[pct-l] Free standing tent

[ned at pacificcrestcustombuilders.com]

Hi, Bob!

Well put! We have had to run after many a tent that was not anchored well on 
our training trips through the Sierra. I will say more later about our 
recommendations regarding this.

Mtnned
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Bankhead" <wandering_bob at comcast.net>
To: "Bradley Issler" <bradley.issler at gmail.com>; <sswwooppee at gmail.com>; 
"PCT-1" <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Free standing tent


> Never underestimate the importance of a good night's sleep.
>
> It is directly proportional to the length of your hike in both distance 
> and time, and at some point, which is different for each person, will 
> become a critical factor in whether or not you can or will stay on the 
> trail.
>
>>From Mojave to Canada, and even in the Sierra, I never had a campsite 
>>where I could not adequately erect my non-free-standing Gatewood Cape or 
>>Lunar Solo. Where stakes wouldn't hold or even penetrate (slab granite at 
>>Guitar Lake), rocks did the job. Even there, by moving my site another 
>>three hundred yards or so, I could reach grassy areas where stakes (or a 
>>combination of stakes and rocks) could be used. If all else fails, cowboy 
>>camp it.
>
> I will guarentee you that at places like Guitar Lake, even staked shelters 
> in the grassy areas had rocks piled on top of the stakes. Sierra winds can 
> get fierce and stay that way. Any unanchored shelter will , as mentioned 
> in another reply, quickly achieve low earth orbit, taking your gear with 
> it. At Guitar Lake, your unanchored shelter could easily summit Mt Whitney 
> before you do.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Bradley Issler
>  To: sswwooppee at gmail.com ; PCT-1
>  Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 9:20 AM
>  Subject: [pct-l] Free standing tent
>
>
>  I agree with everyone else about free standing being a nice, but 
> unnecessary
>  feature.  I used the TT Rainbow for my 2200 miles of PCT and did not use 
> the
>  free standing feature but once or twice.
>
>  And, if I may, I would like to recommend the Rainbow over the Moment. 
> For a
>  few extra ounces you can have a palace instead of an apartment.  The 
> Rainbow
>  is sooooo roomie.  Again, there are two things I splurged on, as far as
>  weight is concerned.  That is my Neo Air and my Tarprent.  I loved not
>  having to worry about rain, mosquitoes and rodents getting in my shit 
> either
>  while I was sleeping or while I was hangin out at camp in the evening. 
> For
>  me, and obviously this is personal preference, but it was worth the 
> weight
>  to sleep on a comfortable pad, in a fully enclosed shelter for 5.5 months
>  that I was out.
>
>  Jukebox.
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