[pct-l] Pct-l Digest, Vol 16, Issue 99

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>    1. Fobes Saddle Cache Empty (The
> Incredible Bulk)
>    2. Re: [pct2009] Fobes Saddle Cache Empty
> (ed faubert)
>    3. Re: Laundry (t.n. turner)
>    4. Re: Laundry (Hernandez)
>    5. Re: [pct2009] Fobes Saddle Cache Empty
> (AsABat)
>    6. Re: Laundry (virgil)
>    7. Re: Laundry (Diane at Santa Barbara
> Hikes dot com)
>    8. pct southbound 2009 (when, what to
> wear on the feet,    and
>       calories /     lbs per
> day) (jonathan king)
>    9. pct southbound 2009 (food) (jonathan
> king)
>   10. southbound? (sage Clegg)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:24:13 -0700
> From: The Incredible Bulk <ki6asp at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Fobes Saddle Cache Empty
> To: asabat at 4jeffrey.net,
> pct-l at backcountry.net,
>     pct2009 at yahoogroups.com
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> Jellybean wanted me to let the hikers know that the 20
> gallon water cache at
> Fobes Saddle is dry.  The cache is not listed on
> AsABat's water report, but
> it was there (20 one gallon water bottles and they are all
> empty).  Her
> group did not elect to do the 1/2 mile walk to the
> spring.  Instead, they
> will get their water from Apache Spring this evening.
> She is hiking with Chuck Norris, Sugar Momma (aka
> Peppermint Patti), and
> about 3 others.
> 
> I wish I was hiking with them  : (    Can I
> say "I hate work!"
> 
> -- 
> Tom
> The Incredible Bulk
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:53:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: ed faubert <edfaubert at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] [pct2009] Fobes Saddle Cache Empty
> To: pct2009 at yahoogroups.com
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <628912.42259.qm at web110210.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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> Fobes Saddle is another one of the Caches Asabat and i do
> not talk about cause its only there cause someone new
> stashed it for '09, it may never be there again. So its not
> really an empty cache just a new one put there perhaps for
> 1or 2 hikers passing by 
> 
> --- On Wed, 4/29/09, The Incredible Bulk <ki6asp at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: The Incredible Bulk <ki6asp at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct2009] Fobes Saddle Cache Empty
> To: asabat at 4jeffrey.net,
> pct-l at backcountry.net,
> pct2009 at yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 29, 2009, 6:24 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jellybean wanted me to let the hikers know that the 20
> gallon water cache at Fobes Saddle is dry. ?The cache is not
> listed on AsABat's water report, but it was there (20 one
> gallon water bottles and they are all empty). ?Her group did
> not elect to do the 1/2 mile walk to the spring. ?Instead,
> they will get their water from Apache Spring this evening. ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> She is hiking with Chuck Norris, Sugar Momma (aka
> Peppermint Patti), and about 3 others. ?
> 
> 
> I wish I was hiking with them ?: ( ? ?Can I say "I hate
> work!"
> 
> -- 
> Tom?
> The Incredible Bulk
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:13:37 -0700
> From: "t.n. turner" <barnumbaileypdx at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Laundry
> To: <jdjohnson at accesscomm.ca>,
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> 
> Well I wore my rain gear, which when I was in Sisters, it
> was extremely warm, somewhere around 90! I did impress a
> couple folks that I managed to change into these garments
> without anyone seeing me do this! And then I did the same
> thing in the opposite direction, still without being seen! I
> had to do to this among the machines as they do not have a
> bathroom for someone to change in, or use! AND the soap
> machine ate 75 cents!!! But a very nice woman offered me
> some of her soap and bought me a soda!! 
> 
> I met a couple folks along the way that had 'running'
> shorts and a tee that they kept for their laundry days,
> don't know where they kept theirs. I didn't keep them in a
> separate bag, they were in the bottom of my clothes stuff
> sack, along with a "fresh" pair of undies set aside just for
> laundry day!! 
> 
> My only criticism of Sisters, I had been told by three
> sources that there were public showers at the campground in
> town....there wasn't! So I had clean clothes, but not a
> clean body, well I took a "bath" in the campground's
> bathroom sink, not quite the same thing. And it wasn't until
> Cascade Locks that I got a shower!!! (actually at my house
> in Portland, but same idea)
> tammy t.
> 
> > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:22:32 -0600
> > From: jdjohnson at accesscomm.ca
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: [pct-l] Laundry
> > 
> > Well, /this/ might be a stupid question...
> > 
> > For you thru-hikers, when you need to do laundry, what
> do you wear in 
> > the laundromat while you're sitting there doing that
> laundry? And 
> > whatever it is that you wear, do you keep it in a
> separate bag/ziploc 
> > while carrying it on the trail in your backpack, to
> keep it "fresh" from 
> > all of that other "aromatic" stuff in the pack?
> > 
> > Or do you just do the "nude" laundromat thing? :-[
> > 
> > Jiffypop
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:10:36 -0700
> From: "Hernandez" <hernand at magicriver.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Laundry
> To: "'t.n. turner'" <barnumbaileypdx at hotmail.com>,
>     <jdjohnson at accesscomm.ca>,   
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> Aloha Todos,
> 
> I had several methods, which I switched up based on the
> weather, and
> activities I was doing in town.  Among them:
> 
> Wearing all rain gear, as was mentioned.
> 
> Wearing a super light weight, synthetic, short sleeved
> sports shirt that I
> carried, though rarely wore on trail.  I got this
> shirt for $5 at Ross Dress
> for Less.  For bottoms, I wore convertible pants, so
> would unzip the lower
> leggings and wash those in the machine, then wash the
> uppers in the shower
> with me.  The pants dried quickly.
> 
> I also placed a few replacement clothes in my bounce box,
> so when I was in
> town I would shower, put on the clothes from the bounce
> box, wash the
> clothes from the hike, and then figure out what to pack and
> bounce ahead.
> 
> Allbest,
> H.R. HuffnPuff
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net
> [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of t.n. turner
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 7:14 PM
> To: jdjohnson at accesscomm.ca;
> pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Laundry
> 
> 
> Well I wore my rain gear, which when I was in Sisters, it
> was extremely
> warm, somewhere around 90! I did impress a couple folks
> that I managed to
> change into these garments without anyone seeing me do
> this! And then I did
> the same thing in the opposite direction, still without
> being seen! I had to
> do to this among the machines as they do not have a
> bathroom for someone to
> change in, or use! AND the soap machine ate 75 cents!!! But
> a very nice
> woman offered me some of her soap and bought me a soda!! 
> 
> I met a couple folks along the way that had 'running'
> shorts and a tee that
> they kept for their laundry days, don't know where they
> kept theirs. I
> didn't keep them in a separate bag, they were in the bottom
> of my clothes
> stuff sack, along with a "fresh" pair of undies set aside
> just for laundry
> day!! 
> 
> My only criticism of Sisters, I had been told by three
> sources that there
> were public showers at the campground in town....there
> wasn't! So I had
> clean clothes, but not a clean body, well I took a "bath"
> in the
> campground's bathroom sink, not quite the same thing. And
> it wasn't until
> Cascade Locks that I got a shower!!! (actually at my house
> in Portland, but
> same idea)
> tammy t.
> 
> > Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:22:32 -0600
> > From: jdjohnson at accesscomm.ca
> > To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> > Subject: [pct-l] Laundry
> > 
> > Well, /this/ might be a stupid question...
> > 
> > For you thru-hikers, when you need to do laundry, what
> do you wear in 
> > the laundromat while you're sitting there doing that
> laundry? And 
> > whatever it is that you wear, do you keep it in a
> separate bag/ziploc 
> > while carrying it on the trail in your backpack, to
> keep it "fresh" from 
> > all of that other "aromatic" stuff in the pack?
> > 
> > Or do you just do the "nude" laundromat thing? :-[
> > 
> > Jiffypop
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:17:47 -0700
> From: "AsABat" <AsABat at 4Jeffrey.Net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] [pct2009] Fobes Saddle Cache Empty
> To: <pct2009 at yahoogroups.com>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <2BE414ED07434758956AEF7CE90721A5 at PC8>
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> 
> Yes, there can be various caches that are not listed. I
> only list those
> that seem to have some staying power. Most of those listed
> have been
> present for several hiking seasons. Still, some are more
> regularly
> stocked, and some go empty often.
> 
> I received a report recently someone left 10 gallons for
> hikers, double
> checking showed they were not going back so it will be
> (probably already
> was) a nice trail magic for a few hikers.
> 
> AsABat
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:23:04 -0700
> From: virgil <virgil at baloney.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Laundry
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID: <200904292023.04927.virgil at baloney.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> On Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:22:32 Jim & Brenda
> Johnson wrote:
> > Well, /this/ might be a stupid question...
> >
> > For you thru-hikers, when you need to do laundry, what
> do you wear in
> > the laundromat while you're sitting there doing that
> laundry? And
> > whatever it is that you wear, do you keep it in a
> separate bag/ziploc
> > while carrying it on the trail in your backpack, to
> keep it "fresh" from
> > all of that other "aromatic" stuff in the pack?
> >
> > Or do you just do the "nude" laundromat thing? :-[
> 
> Or just shower while wearing your one set of clothes....
> 
> -- 
> "I came into this game for adventure - go anywhere, travel
> light, get in, get
> out, wherever there's trouble, a man alone."
> 
> Robert De Niro as Harry Tuttle in Brazil.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:42:59 -0700
> From: Diane at Santa Barbara Hikes dot com
>     <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Laundry
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>     <5D894742-D6ED-4E5F-9374-46B3E9C73E09 at santabarbarahikes.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes;
> format=flowed
> 
> 
> On Apr 29, 2009, at 6:33 PM, pct-l-request at backcountry.net
> wrote:
> >
> > For you thru-hikers, when you need to do laundry, what
> do you wear in
> > the laundromat while you're sitting there doing that
> laundry?
> 
> I kept a sun dress in my bounce bucket. Some of the trail
> angel  
> houses have loaner clothing. I met a guy on the trail who
> carries a  
> silk men's dress shirt and is hoping to find some silk
> pants  
> eventually. He wears the silk shirt to bed and plans to
> wear it while  
> he does laundry. I'd think you'd need to wash your sleeping
> clothes  
> eventually, too, but I suppose you could do two loads (save
> money and  
> share your load with others.) An alternative is to lower
> your  
> standards and just jump in a creek once in a while or wash
> your  
> clothing one item at a time in a sink or all items in the
> shower.  
> Then walk your freshly "washed" clothing dry. I did that
> more than a  
> few times.
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:29:39 -0700
> From: jonathan king <jwking at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] pct southbound 2009 (when, what to wear on
> the feet,
>     and calories /     lbs
> per day)
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>     <5664db550904292229x2afc1f7id5d6d554bc57f9ce at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> Hello all, just joined the list serve.
> 
> I am hiking with a friend who doesn't finish school until
> late May and we
> have just recently decided to head southbound - a decision
> largely based on
> a desire not to be in SoCal for all of hot hot June. Other
> appealing factors
> include a less populated trail in OR and WA, less extreme
> average weather
> (rain, temp, etc). I know water will be more of an issue
> ini SoCal, but
> water consumption will hopefully be offset by cooler
> temps.
> 
> After doing a little research, it seems that snowfall in
> the Northern
> Cascades in 80% of normal this year. We are aiming for a
> June 14th start
> date.
> 
> A few questions:
> 
> Any other SoBounders around?
> When are you leaving?
> Why south?
> 
> Other things I'm wondering about:
> 
> I don't have much (any) of experience backpacking in snow
> or ice and I
> assume at a minimum that we will have snowy / icy accents
> of the northern
> slopes.
> 
> Crampons, snowshoes or both? ( I will have an ice axe).
> 
> Right now I'm leaning toward oversized stiffer trail
> runners to accommodate
> socks and vapor barrier system.
> 
> I know it's hard to tell 7 weeks out, but does anyone
> have:
> 
> predictions for trail conditions?
> general footwear ideas?
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:34:46 -0700
> From: jonathan king <jwking at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] pct southbound 2009 (food)
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Message-ID:
>     <5664db550904292234r74e77ebbs9b40afb2335d8f06 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> I've been doing some research on how many calories a
> backpacker expends per
> day on a thru hike. The numbers seem to point to 5,000 to
> 6,000.
> Questions:
> Do you all try to carry / consumer that much on trail or
> make up the deficit
> in town?
> Do you calculate food needs by calorie or pound?
> How much do you carry in calories or pounds for a thru hike
> (per day)?
> Does this differ as the hike progresses?
> 
> I'm 6'2" 165 (i.e. not too much to spare)
> Eating strategies for not turning in to a skeleton?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> jonathan
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:13:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: sage Clegg <sageclegg at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] southbound?
> To: "pct-l at backcountry.net"
> <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Message-ID: <620821.8805.qm at web111401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> 
> 
> Hi everybody! I am a southbound pct hopeful and am looking
> for some tips from those who have walked with the sun in
> thier eyes for days on end searching for mexico. I have been
> reading guides backwards and doing a lot of subtracting of
> miles. With this added figuring I have a feeling I might be
> missing things in the shuffle. Also, I am wondering about
> resupplies in N. WA. It seems by the time most folks get
> there they are charging along, where I will be just warming
> up by hiking fewer miles and would like more frequent
> resupplies. Any suggestions for ways to break up the 100+
> mile sections? What about the glacier peak reroute this
> year? I have a stack of questions but don't want to
> overwhelm anybody, so I will leave it at that for now.
> Thanks! Sage
> 
> 
>       
> 
> 
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