[pct-l] crampon fit

[Steel-Eye]

Good morning,

I use the CMI 4-point instep crampons at 9.0 oz. per pair.
http://www.cmi-gear.com/catalog/essentials/crampons.asp
I've tromped over quite a bit of bare, rocky ground and all that seems to
happen is the paint gets polished off the points.

The Stubai 6-pointers seem to have a drop in the rear portion of their
frames, apparently to accommodate the heel of a boot.  That's a good feature
if there is a heel, but most running/trail shoes don't have such a distinct
heel with the associated arch clearance ahead of it.  How do these Stubis'
fit on sneakers?

Steel-Eye


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Batchelor" <billbatch at cox.net>
To: "'Brian Lewis'" <brianle at nwlink.com>; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [pct-l] crampon fit


> If you are looking for a 6 point and ULA's are gone,  these may be an
> option
> http://store.everestgear.com/421113.html
>
> They weigh in at about 15 ounces as opposed to the Stubai Light at 1 pound
> 5
> ounces.  I think the ULAs were closer to 8 ounces though.  Since I know of
> no crampon that is as light as the ULA, this may be a reason they don't
> make
> them any longer (too many failures or something of that nature).  Katoola
> makes some nice options too.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Brian Lewis
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 5:49 PM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] crampon fit
>
> Mark V wrote:
> "Looking at the Stubai Universals, i don't see anything in the design to
> make me believe they would be any more stable with trail runners than my
> regular Grivel 10-point crampons...other than they SAY they are.  Is there
> really anything to their claim?  Why?"
>
>
> I have no experience with Grivel's, and so can't make any comparison with
> those; if you like your Grivel's, not sure why you're thinking of a switch
> (weight maybe?).
>
> I do have a pair of aluminum Stubai's --- I don't know if they're
> "universals", but they look about the same as the picture, red rubberized
> units that go over the toe and heel part of the shoe to form the binding.
> They work great on my trail runners, I've not had any issues with
> stability;
> perhaps the nature of the tread might impact this depending on the shoe,
> dunno.  The bindings hold the crampon very securely on a shoe or boot.
>
> And ten-point crampons can do a fine job in a fairly wide range of
> activities short of fairly extreme climbing: I was completely comfortable
> climbing Mt. Adams with these (albeit with boots rather than trail runners
> for that climb).
>
> Caveat: they're too heavy for me to consider carrying on the PCT, I'll
> bring
> the no-longer-for-sale ULA 6-point mini-crampons for the Sierras.
>
>
>
> Brian Lewis
>
>
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