[pct-l] Umbrellas and desert hear

[G. Lowe aka Wheeew]

When I did a car tour of the west several summers ago, I'd use my umbrella every time I went to a park that had no shade.  (To look at mud pots bubbling up from the earth, geysers, etc).  It was a god-send.  I don't know how others stood it.  And that was just walking around!!

Donna Saufley <dsaufley at sprynet.com> wrote: Simply stand in the shade on a searingly hot day (with or without hat on),
and the reasons for creating constant shade on your head will become
immediately apparent to you.  Now, weather you want the fuss and weight of
the umbrella, and just how tolerant you are to extreme heat, becomes the
issue.  

L-Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
On Behalf Of Patrick Beggan
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:40 AM
To: Greg Kesselring; pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: [pct-l] Umbrellas and desert hear

Right but how is that different from a wide-brimmed hat? As long as  
your skin is covered, there's no major difference.

And trust me, I know all about the desert. :P I'm just wondering why a  
hat is inferior enough to warrant the extra weight of an umbrella to  
people who slice up their maps into funny shapes to save a quarter  
ounce. :P


On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Greg Kesselring wrote:

> I'm sure there is a lot of heat given off by the desert ground.
> However, the radiant heat from direct sunlight adds to that. Having
> spent lots of time in the open alpine of the North Cascades, my  
> guess is
> that hiking under direct sunlight adds 20 or 30 degrees to the ambient
> temp just in terms of how it feels.
>
> If you're in the hot desert, try standing out in the sunlight.  Then  
> try
> standing in the shade.  Which do you think will feel warmer.
>
> The umbrella fellas are just trying to take that shade with them, all
> day long.
>
>
>
> Patrick Beggan wrote:
>> What is this obsession with umbrellas? I mean, seriously, I'm not
>> being a troll here -- why do so many people like them? I tried it  
>> once
>> and it wasn't any different for me than a wide-brimmed hat and a good
>> long-sleeve t-shirt but considerably more weight since you generally
>> need to still carry a hat and a shirt anyway.
>>
>> Most of the heat in the desert is reflected from the ground anyway so
>> overhead cover only helps the direct radiation. Doesn't seem worth it
>> to me.
>>
>>
>
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