[pct-l] Umbrellas and desert hear

[Patrick Beggan]

See, I guess it just comes down to that -- I don't notice a  
significant difference between a good, ventilated wide-brimmed desert  
hat and an umbrella. To each his own, I guess.


On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Greg Kesselring wrote:

> It's a huge difference.  When your hat is exposed to direct  
> sunlight, it
> gets HOT.  A hat also doesn't allow air circulation around your head.
>
> Your head will feel a lot cooler without at hat if you're standing in
> the shade than with a hat standing in direct sunlight.  Ditto for any
> other part of your body that is in direct sunlight and is covered with
> clothing.
>
>
>
> Patrick Beggan wrote:
>> Right but how is that different from a wide-brimmed hat? As long as
>> your skin is covered, there's no major difference.
>>
>> And trust me, I know all about the desert. :P I'm just wondering  
>> why a
>> hat is inferior enough to warrant the extra weight of an umbrella to
>> people who slice up their maps into funny shapes to save a quarter
>> ounce. :P
>>
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Greg Kesselring wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure there is a lot of heat given off by the desert ground.
>>> However, the radiant heat from direct sunlight adds to that. Having
>>> spent lots of time in the open alpine of the North Cascades, my  
>>> guess is
>>> that hiking under direct sunlight adds 20 or 30 degrees to the  
>>> ambient
>>> temp just in terms of how it feels.
>>>
>>> If you're in the hot desert, try standing out in the sunlight.   
>>> Then try
>>> standing in the shade.  Which do you think will feel warmer.
>>>
>>> The umbrella fellas are just trying to take that shade with them,  
>>> all
>>> day long.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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