[pct-l] Umbrellas

[Patrick Beggan]

So it's a question of ventilation? Why not just cut some slits in the  
body of your hat, above the brim? Seems it would be smarter to have  
the somewhat lesser coverage of a wide-brimmed hat and hike only in  
the early morning and afternoon (thus avoiding most of the bad direct  
radiation anyway), sitting out the hottest part of the day in the  
shade. That's how the Bedouin do it anyway. Save on weight and  
discomfort and simply re-arrange your hiking hours.


On Jan 22, 2008, at 2:41 PM, Donna Saufley wrote:

> Just another one of so many choices that make everyone different and  
> their hike and preferences unique to them.
>
> Though I haven’t done any desert sections in the heat and therefore  
> have not had need for an umbrella, if I were to hike the desert when  
> it’s hot I would consider giving an umbrella (and hands-free holder)  
> a try.  It’s astonishing how much cooler it is in the shade when the  
> sun is blazing hot.  If you’re wearing a hat only, the sun beats  
> directly on your head, albeit through your hat, and you are  
> essentially feeling all the heat because it’s directly on you.  If  
> you elevate that boundary, and keep the sun from actually reaching  
> you, you will not have the sun on your head at all and presumably be  
> much cooler.  And, as Wheeew said, heat can better escape from your  
> head.
>
> Many hikers start without umbrellas, and we’ve had fairly large  
> numbers of hikers buying/making/outfitting mylar umbrellas at Hiker  
> Heaven every season.  There must be good reason for it, and it may  
> be worth experimenting with.
>
> L-Rod
>
>
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net 
> ] On Behalf Of Patrick Beggan
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:46 AM
> To: JOHNNY J FARBER; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Umbrellas
>
> What is this obsession with umbrellas? I mean, seriously, I'm not  
> being a troll here -- why do so many people like them? I tried it  
> once and it wasn't any different for me than a wide-brimmed hat and  
> a good long-sleeve t-shirt but considerably more weight since you  
> generally need to still carry a hat and a shirt anyway.
>
> Most of the heat in the desert is reflected from the ground anyway  
> so overhead cover only helps the direct radiation. Doesn't seem  
> worth it to me.
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2008, at 1:02 PM, JOHNNY J FARBER wrote:
>
>
> We followed the Jardine method of rubber banding the mylar to the  
> umbrella which worked great.  He recommended using the small rubber  
> bands from an orthodonist.  The wind turned our umbrellas inside out  
> a few times, but most of time they were lifesavers.  Campmor sells a  
> metallic coated treking umbrella 24.99--spf 50+--this is what we are  
> using this year.
> JOURNELS---I would like to know the address of a user friendly  
> journel site.  Despite the fear that all the comments have struck  
> into my heart, I still want to write a journel of our 2008 trip.   
> Just kidding about the fear--many of the comments are helpful.   
> Besides I gave up fear (at least I don't let it stop me) when I  
> fought cancer in 2006.  Sharon "Free" (from fear & cancer) Farber
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