[pct-l] Ray Jardine

[Postholer]

Sir Edmund Hillary was a member of the backup team. When the primary team 
had problems (equipment or health), Hillary and Norgay got their chance. You 
have wonder what the leader of the expedition was like; the guy who made it 
happen in the first place. :)

Clearly, Hillary was not socially heeled in the 'normal' since. He went on 
to do extroadinary things for the sherpas. Definitely above and beyond the 
rest of us even-keeled sheep.

Offensive or not, personalities swing far from center line. That was the 
point, not that they are good or bad. I'll let others make that judgement.

parasites = pirate-sites
Switchback, man, you kill me some times! ROFL

-postholer
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donna Saufley" <dsaufley at sprynet.com>
To: "'Postholer'" <public at postholer.com>; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] Ray Jardine


> Interesting observations, and I certainly can't disagree.  I'm just struck
> by the contrast of the late Sir Edmund Hillary, also a pioneer and great
> adventurer, who was seemingly beloved universally and did nothing I'm 
> aware
> of offend anyone.
>
> It's one thing to be driven and different, and not your typical sheep (we
> see A LOT of that here), but it's another to make a point to put others 
> down
> in the process.  There's just no excuse for that and it's unacceptable to
> me, I'm afraid.  But then, I have been indirectly maligned by Mr. Jardine,
> who wrote that hiker hostels were "black holes" and hikers who went to 
> them
> "parasites."
>
> Whatever his/their accomplishments, his/their attitude toward others
> exhibits blatant arrogance, superiority, and elitism that is rare in the
> community of hikers and adventurers. That too will be part of his legacy.
>
> L-Rod
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net [mailto:pct-l-bounces at backcountry.net]
> On Behalf Of Postholer
> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 10:50 AM
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Ray Jardine
>
> Mountain climbing guru
> Hiking gear guru
> Sailed around the world
> Hiked the PCT multiple times. AT and CDT
> Took a row boat across the atlantic
> Rode bikes across the country twice
> Walked to the South Pole
> A gazillion miles of arctic kayaking
> who knows what else....
>
> Ray *and* Jenny have accomplished quite a bit. I'd guess Jenny hasn't been 
> a
>
> hostage in all this; more of a co-conspirator possibly? Maybe she *enjoys*
> being Ray's wife where other women are content with day time TV.
>
> While I've never met either of them, I would be utterly shocked to find 
> two
> socially heeled, 'normal' people. People with this type of drive are
> anything but even-keeled sheep.
>
> -postholer
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