[pct-l] VVR resupply info

[patti kulesz]

Nope no critism involved. As I stated n the original email...the info I HAVE READ about VVR is incorrect. Maybe I should have made myself a little more clear by saying in the online journals, Yogi's book, the data book, etc. I just figured it was understood. I am very cautious about my research and being that I have not ever been to VVR I checked out their web site as well. Therefore finding inaccurate information in everything else that I researched. Others may not be as interested in looking at these details and just assuming that the books and journals they read are updated and then get to VVR and say WTF...the book or whatever said it's this much. Not everyone on the trail can spend $4000.00 to do this hike. I'm just trying to pass on the info.

I am thankful for these places to be out there or I wouldn't be able to get my packages. I just wanted some opinions on which would be cheaper...to send a package or resupply there. The part about the dogs was just an add on for those who have inquired. I felt your response to my original email was very defensive.

patti

--- On Wed, 12/24/08, kmurray at pol.net <kmurray at pol.net> wrote:

From: kmurray at pol.net <kmurray at pol.net>
Subject: Re: [pct-l] VVR resupply info
To: peprmintpati88 at yahoo.com
Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 9:52 AM

Gosh, Patti, I don't know what makes you think that I didn't read your
entire email, or that I was upset.

While you may think that your email could be characterized as a simple
inquiry and statement of facts, it seemed that there was a certain
critical quality to it, relating to not understanding the circumstances of
the situation, which seemed worthy of explanation.

I don't know if you have ever actually been to VVR, but if you had, you
would know that the selection of things is limited, and they charge the
typical remote resort prices for things, meaning that it would be MUCH
more expensive to resupply off of VVR's shelves.  That's in terms of
answering your question........

If your knowledge extends beyond simply looking at the website, I
apologize, but it seemed that it did not.

Ken

> I wasn't complaining only inquiring which would better, mailing resupply
> or resupplying at the store, also sharing what I found on the site about
> mailing packages. As for the dogs...there's been alot of questions and
> comments about it here lately so I was just sharing the info I found.
> Maybe you should read the entire email before getting upset with my
> question???
>
> patti
>
> --- On Tue, 12/23/08, kmurray at pol.net <kmurray at pol.net> wrote:
>
> From: kmurray at pol.net <kmurray at pol.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] VVR resupply info
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2008, 11:21 PM
>
> Hey y'all...the info I have read so far on VVR is incorrect. I looked
> online and found that resupply pickup is now $18.00. Make sure you read
> this so you get your packages:
> http://edisonlake.com/site/content/view/25/42/
> Also the fare has gone up to $10.00 one way for the ferry
> http://edisonlake.com/site/content/view/26/43/
> I'm wondering if it would be cheaper to just buy all the food and stuff
> there as opposed to having a package sent for resupply. Food + UPS +
> pickup at VVR...hhhmmmmm
> Also people with dogs:
> http://edisonlake.com/site/content/view/29/56/
> patti
> ===============================================Patti, a little
> perspective on VVR:
>
> VVR is a tremendous convenience for many PCT/JMT hikers.  Most (but not
> all) have a great time there.  When you consider that they have to cart
> all the packages 30-some miles on mountain roads, in their private
> vehicles, that is still a deal.  Muir Trail Ranch, just up the trail,
> charges $45.
> 5 or so years back, the resort was bought by Jim Clement, a
> mountaineer/hiker who changed the focus from being a cowboy haven, to a
> hiker haven.  He has struggled to make it financially, partially because
> of what he was left with.
> If you think that running such a place is, day in and day out, a real
> dream, one might consider the previous owner, Butch, who ended his
> tenancy with a gun in his mouth.
>
> I've seen Jim do all sorts of things to help hikers out, at his own
> expense.  He is an environmentalist, not common in the vendors in this
> part of the backcountry.
>
> I'm not sure your point about the dogs.  People who don't/won't control
> their dogs should leave them home.  Virtually no one comes in off the
> trail with a dog, as the parks to the south don't allow them.   Jim also
> has to console 4-5 people a year who wander out with their dogs, who
> wander off, never to be seen again.  Denali was a very nice dog.
>
>
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