[pct-l] The KO-Just a comment

Tue Apr 29 10:51:15 CDT 2008

Hello,

I thought the KO was inspiring, informative, intriguing and fun. I met
amazing people and I heard even more amazing stories as well as learning
so much about hiking the PCT.

Because others give so much I helped some hikers get to the KO and back to
the trail as well as one to LAX. I share that only because I didn't worry
that "they" had some alterior motives nor did they have the same concern
about me, although they were a little nervous when they got into my car.
Do you think it was the mask?

Thanks to the organizers, the hikers, the campfire musicians and the
comedians.

A 2009 hiker,

Bill

BTW my grand-daughter calls me Baha(Baja- she's 2 so she is not sure how
to spell it). Do you think that would be a good trail name for me?

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>    1.  transport from wrightwood (Marlene Soffera)
>    2. Class of 2007 DVD? / previous Class DVDs (enyapjr at comcast.net)
>    3. San Diego MTS and Warner Springs (SWS)
>    4. CA-OR border (Suzannah Swinehart)
>    5. CA-OR border (Suzannah Swinehart)
>    6. Re: San Diego MTS and Warner Springs (Carl Siechert)
>    7. Re: ADZ Transition Back (taterno at cox.net)
>    8. Post KO (Paul Cronshaw)
>    9. Re: Contaminated water question (fdumville at earthlink.net)
>   10. Trouble KO'd (Len Glassner)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:16:41 -0700
> From: "Marlene Soffera" <mmsoffera at charter.net>
> Subject: [pct-l]  transport from wrightwood
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I don't know about bus service.  If you would like personal taxi service
> (free), AND your dates and my dates coordinate appropriately, I could take
> you "down the hill" to a train station with service to L. A.'s Union
> Station, or I could take you directly to Ontario Airport.
>
> I live in Hesperia, so alternative "bail out" points closer to my home are
> at Hwy 173 (but cell service is sketchy), Lake Silverwood, or I-15 & the
> famous McDonalds.
>
> Marlene
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 00:51:34 +0000
> From: enyapjr at comcast.net
> Subject: [pct-l] Class of 2007 DVD? / previous Class DVDs
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net (pct-l)
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> For those wanting previous years of the PCT DVD series (2003 - 2006), see
> these posts from November, 2007...
>
> For 'regular' downloads (must download 8 to 13 files, then self extract a
> disc image - takes time!):
> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/2007-November/010641.html
>
> For bittorent downloads (but not many seeds right now, so 'slow' download
> - but might be faster than 'regular' download above - ??):
> http://mailman.backcountry.net/pipermail/pct-l/2007-November/010718.html
>
> I would imagine the 2007 will also be available sometime in the future...
> Soon, I hope!  ;-)
>
> Happy trails!!!
> Jim
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:03:37 -0400
> From: "SWS" <sws4024 at charter.net>
> Subject: [pct-l] San Diego MTS and Warner Springs
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I noticed the ADZPCTKO website lists a bus route betweeen Warner Springs
> and San Diego, but the
> San Diego MTS website doesn't list service into Warner Springs proper. It
> appears to get close.
> Can anyone tell me more about this service?
>
> How close does the bus come to Warner Springs? It looks like the west bus
> may travel along S2
> from Borrego to Highway 79 just south of Warner Springs. Will the bus make
> a flag stop? I'm
> looking at hiking from Campo to Warner Springs and wondering about an easy
> way to get back to
> San Diego. It looks like this route only runs on Thursdays? Thanks in
> advance for your reply!
>
> "Snuffy"
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:01:00 -0700
> From: Suzannah Swinehart <suz_quz at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] CA-OR border
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>, <elric1911 at hotmail.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY144-W4116E7B1BFF80D342FBDE92D90 at phx.gbl>
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>
> Hi Erich,
>
> My dad and I have the same goal of doing all of Oregon, starting at the
> CA-OR border. We are doing it in section hikes...one summer at a time.
> Last August we started our trek at Grouse Gap shelter, which was as close
> to the border as we could get before our driver felt uncomfortable. She
> was alone and very nervous about getting lost on the logging roads on her
> way back to I-5 and Ashland. (Not to say that the roads were that
> confusing; they seemed pretty good but we didn't want to push her if she
> didn't feel up for it.)
>
> Anyway...So yeah, now we have to go back and get in those first 15 miles
> :) But as long as you have a confident driver who likes exploring (with a
> full tank of gas, for sure!) you should be fine. A good detailed map to
> leave with your driver is a must. We did see a decent number of cars -
> dayhikers, birders, etc. - so there's even the chance that there would be
> some traffic around if your driver did take a wrong turn.
>
> Steel Eye had a lot of great info on that drive. Also check out the
> alternate route coming off of I-5, south of Ashland. I think it was road
> 40s15 that we were on.
>
> Chipmunk (and Dad)
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:02:51 -0700
> From: Suzannah Swinehart <suz_quz at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] CA-OR border
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>, <zekeblack at aol.com>
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>
> Zeke,
>
> My apologies for replying so late. The
> PCT-L booted me off for some reason so I just now got caught up on your
> email.
>
> I would be open to providing some shuttle service if
> your friends decide to hike in the central to southern part of our
> state. I live in Eugene, which has both airport and Amtrak
> accessibility. As long as it's not while I'm on this year's section of
> the trail (or hanging out with Firefly) I should be around.
>
> Actually,
> we're doing the Fish Lake - McKenzie Pass section this year, which
> includes Crater Lake. It will take us through Sky Lakes and Mt Thielsen
> wildernesses. I'm not sure how others weigh in on this as one of the best
> stretches of Oregon, but I will say that we were AMAZED last year
> hiking Oregon's A and B sections...after reading the Schaeffer
> guidebook's quote of "one of the least scenic parts of the PCT" or
> something to that effect. It was beautiful.
>
>
>
> If your friends time it well enough, they might be able to hitch with us
> at least one way. (Only problem is that we haven't figured it out for
> ourselves yet, either :) )
>
> Chipmunk
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:31:03 -0700
> From: "Carl Siechert" <carlito at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] San Diego MTS and Warner Springs
> To: SWS <sws4024 at charter.net>
> Cc: pct-l at backcountry.net
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> True: According to the map at
> http://www.sdmts.com/RouteFiles/routes/pdf/892.pdf, the closest the 892
> bus
> gets to Warner Springs is the junction of S2 and 79, which is about three
> highway miles SW of Warner Springs. Alternatively, they could pick you up
> where S22 crosses the PCT, about eight trail miles SE of Warner Springs.
> With advance notice, they will do flag stops. And you're right: This route
> runs only on Thursday.
>
> They will go into Warner Springs, but you must contact SDMTS first. Their
> brochure says "We may be able to go off-route for your pick up or drop off
> location. Please call in advance (at least one day) to discuss your travel
> plans and dates." 1-800-858-0291
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 6:03 PM, SWS <sws4024 at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I noticed the ADZPCTKO website lists a bus route betweeen Warner Springs
>> and San Diego, but the
>> San Diego MTS website doesn't list service into Warner Springs proper.
>> It
>> appears to get close.
>> Can anyone tell me more about this service?
>>
>> How close does the bus come to Warner Springs? It looks like the west
>> bus
>> may travel along S2
>> from Borrego to Highway 79 just south of Warner Springs. Will the bus
>> make
>> a flag stop? I'm
>> looking at hiking from Campo to Warner Springs and wondering about an
>> easy
>> way to get back to
>> San Diego. It looks like this route only runs on Thursdays? Thanks in
>> advance for your reply!
>>
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:40:02 -0400
> From: <taterno at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] ADZ Transition Back
> To: bighummel at aol.com, pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Striker,
>
> Those are exactly my thoughts and experience.
>
> It is sad to see all those lucky section and thru hikers leave Sunday
> morning.  I wish I were going with them, but my time will come.  I will
> cherish the new friendships gained, and old ones renewed.
>
> In the meantime, I will try my hand at being a trail angel on weekends in
> socal, up to Hiker Heaven.  If anyone need a ride or help, I will do my
> best to accommodate you on weekends - work gets in the way during the
> week.
>
> I wish all the best for this year's section and thru hikers.   Be safe and
> have FUN.
>
> Hike-on!
>
>
> Tom KI6ASP
> The Incredible Bulk
>
>
> ---- bighummel at aol.com wrote:
>
> =============
> As quickly as they came, they leave and the park empties.? The BBQs and
> canopies and tables and chairs and signs and banners are all stored away
> into our new storage trailer.? The wrap-up meeting goes well and Monty Tam
> gets a standing ovation from the other organizers for his incredible food
> accomplishments.? We all then stand and take a collective bow, knowing
> from all accounts received that we have again pulled off an incredibly
> successful event.? We sweep the park for garbage and once again find that
> the LNT passion is well shared and understood.? The Lake Morena rangers
> are extremely pleased and have no complaints, no problems and kudos for
> how well this group always behaves and handles ourselves.
>
> We drive, fly and caravan home to find our own families and beds.? Up in
> the morning, onto the train, into Union Station, walk the 2 miles across
> Bunker Hill to work, up 48 floors.? The leaf blowers and buses and sirens
> and roar of traffic pervade the air.? The phone rings, a knock on the
> door, "Hey, can you . . . ?" "Hey, Greg, can you . . . ?"?"Hey can we? . .
> . ?"?
>
> My mind wanders off with PA Jeff, up the trail.?
>
> My soul goes with all of the '08's, up the trail.?
>
> The memories flood my mind.?
>
> The stories carry me.?
>
> Greg "Striker" Hummel
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:17:40 -0700
> From: Paul Cronshaw <beemancron at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Post KO
> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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>
> Greg,
>
> This was my first KO; I have been trying to attend one for the past 5
> years but my principal has always asked me to attend a conference. Until
> this year, when I said I HAD to go to the KO! :)
>
> Three weeks prior to the KO, on our Section A hike, WS Monty, Read Miller
> (Reader), and Glen Van Peski (G-Squared) stopped for dinner at the
> deserted Lake Morena campground.  It was very peaceful and gave me a heads
> up on the environment.
>
> I was a little apprehensive about staying at the camp with a large group.
> I do not car camp, but prefer to camp in the wilderness to avoid the large
> gatherings of rowdies who party, play load music, build huge bondfires,
> etc.
>
> It was a real pleasure to see how thru-hikers brought their trail
> philosophy and practices to a public campground. I can certainly
> understand why the rangers like this group of campers! :)
>
> Thanks again to you and your band of KO organizers, especially to WS Monty
> for his culinary organization.
>
> Now it is back to the trail journals to vicariously follow the journeys of
> PCT Class of 2008 hikers.
>
> See you next year.
>
> Paul "Beeman" Cronshaw
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> --Forwarded Message Attachment--
> From: bighummel at aol.com
> To: pct-l at backcountry.net
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:26:00 -0400
> Subject: [pct-l] ADZ Transition Back
>
> As quickly as they came, they leave and the park empties.? The BBQs and
> canopies and tables and chairs and signs and banners are all stored away
> into our new storage trailer.? The wrap-up meeting goes well and Monty Tam
> gets a standing ovation from the other organizers for his incredible food
> accomplishments.? We all then stand and take a collective bow, knowing
> from all accounts received that we have again pulled off an incredibly
> successful event.? We sweep the park for garbage and once again find that
> the LNT passion is well shared and understood.? The Lake Morena rangers
> are extremely pleased and have no complaints, no problems and kudos for
> how well this group always behaves and handles ourselves.
>
> We drive, fly and caravan home to find our own families and beds.? Up in
> the morning, onto the train, into Union Station, walk the 2 miles across
> Bunker Hill to work, up 48 floors.? The leaf blowers and buses and sirens
> and roar of traffic pervade the air.? The phone rings, a knock on the
> door, "Hey, can you . . . ?" "Hey, Greg, can you . . . ?"?"Hey can we? . .
> . ?"?
>
> My mind wanders off with PA Jeff, up the trail.?
>
> My soul goes with all of the '08's, up the trail.?
>
> The memories flood my mind.?
>
> The stories carry me.?
>
> Greg "Striker" Hummel
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:18:25 -0700
> From: "fdumville at earthlink.net" <fdumville at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Contaminated water question
> To: "Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes"
> 	<diane at santabarbarahikes.com>,	pct-l at backcountry.net
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> Diane,
>
> Here's a link to a US Army analysis of commercial water treatment systems
> with regards to biological contaminants. The Pur Hiker is listed as the
> Katadyn Hiker.
> I mentioned chemical contamination in my previous post as the exception.
> Most of the time it is biological contamination that is the concern.
>
> Snap
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Diane Soini of Santa Barbara Hikes <diane at santabarbarahikes.com>
>> To: <pct-l at backcountry.net>
>> Date: 4/28/2008 10:01:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [pct-l] Contaminated water question
>>
>> I guess the question I'm trying to get answered is what does a
>> typical water filter filter? I have a Pur Hiker filter. Will it
>> filter out contaminants from water sources marked as "may be
>> contaminated" in the Data Book? And does the Data Book, when it says
>> "contaminated" mainly mean chemical pollution or biological
>> pollution? So far the only thing I'm hearing is chemical pollution.
>>
>> Sorry I'm so concerned about water, but I'm a native of chaparral
>> country and I already understand the importance of water. It's just
>> where I normally go, the water is never "contaminated" (green maybe,
>> or yellow, but not polluted as far as I know) and I already know
>> where all of it is and even some places to look when it isn't there.
>> I'm just a little worried about the PCT which is unfamiliar territory
>> for me, and so if I'm left to filter water at Scissors crossing, for
>> example, will my filter clean it up or should I take a pass?
>>
>> Diane
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:25:06 -0700
> From: "Len Glassner" <len5742 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [pct-l] Trouble KO'd
> To: PCT <pct-l at backcountry.net>
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> I sat next to gentleman from Texas while eating dinner at the KO on
> Saturday.
>
> He related the following tale:
>
> He'd flown into the airport and ridden the bus to Campo. Exiting the
> bus, he removed his pack from the luggage rack and completely ripped
> off a should strap.
>
> So there he was, standing near the museum in Campo, consulting with
> his daughter by phone, trying to decide his next move.
>
> A fellow approached him and asked if he had a problem.  Matter of
> fact, he did.  After explaining his predicament, the stranger said he
> was was supporting a couple of other PCT hikers, and would transport
> him directly to the KO where he could get his pack repaired.  And
> that's just what happened, upon being delivered to Ron Moak.
>
> Just like it never happened.
>
> Damned enablers!
>
>
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