[pct-l] Wild Trail Food
Steel-Eye
chelin at teleport.com
Sun Apr 13 17:07:48 CDT 2008
I understand grubs are nourishing, being high in protein. They don't have to be unwrapped or cooked, and they are easy to swallow. In spite of that I haven't tried them. Long ago I made a deal with the Society of American Blackbears: They don't disturbe me while I'm bent over in a huckleberry patch, and I don't distrube them when they are ripping apart a stump looking for grubs.
It seems fair to me ....
Steel-Eye
----- Original Message -----
From: robo hiker
To: Steel-Eye ; mark v ; pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:21 PM
Subject: RE: Wild Trail Food
thanks mr. steeleye!
what about grubs????
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From: chelin at teleport.com
To: robohiker at hotmail.com; allemande6 at yahoo.com; pct-l at backcountry.net
Subject: Re: Wild Trail Food
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 13:23:43 -0700
Good afternoon, Robo,
Trying to live off the land during such a long hike is functionally very unlikely, and certainly no-one would be happy eating gross quantities of anything, wild or domestic. I suppose everyone remembers the anecdote in the guidebook about the attractive young woman who hiked carrying only soybeans and powdered milk. She made it, but she stopped at every opportunity to trade her body for palatable food.
Wild foods can be a real treat and a welcome break from trail food. Huckleberries are an obvious example, or a small trout toasted like a marshmallow on a stick over a little stove. Oregon does have lots of mushrooms, from the common little buttons, to morels, all the way up to the out-of-sight-expensive chanterelles. They make a great addition to the evening meal.
Last summer I remember meeting Stone Dancer, Swami, and Tree Whisperer where the Kearsarge Pass Trail meets the PCT. Swami took a break there for an early dinner, and he cooked some kind of typical hiker-glop, but with a bonus: He had stopped somewhere – probably just below at Vidette Meadow – and picked some wild onions. Those he diced, tops and all, into his pot. The resulting aroma was just wonderful, particularly since all I had to eat was dry, brown stuff.
Steel-Eye
----- Original Message -----
From: robo hiker
To: Steel-Eye ; mark v ; pct-l at backcountry.net
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: [pct-l] (no subject)
hi, and good morning mr. steeleye!
maybe i should've added ;
while i'm quite certain you wouldn't be able to live off these alone, a friend of mine had mentioned to me in the past that while he and another friend were walking through so. oregon on their section hike of the P.C.T. they had found an abundance of morel mushrooms in the immeadiate vicinity of the trail.
hope to see you in your neck of the woods
> From: chelin at teleport.com
> To: robohiker at hotmail.com; allemande6 at yahoo.com; pct-l at backcountry.net
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] (no subject)
> Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:54:47 -0700
>
> Good morning, Robo,
>
> Morels are yummy, and often abundant, but it would be about like eating
> iceberg lettuce. With only 18 Calories per cup, a hiker would need 250 cups
> per day -- 15.5 gallons -- to total 4500 Calories. Sorry: A subsistence
> scrounger wouldn't get to sauté them in oil to increase the number of
> Calories.
>
> Steel-Eye
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "robo hiker" <robohiker at hotmail.com>
> To: "mark v" <allemande6 at yahoo.com>; <pct-l at backcountry.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 4:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [pct-l] (no subject)
>
>
> >
> > my buddy told me he found an abunance of morel mushrooms around the trail
> > in so. oregon
> >> Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:12:34 -0700> From: allemande6 at yahoo.com> To:
> >> pct-l at backcountry.net> Subject: Re: [pct-l] (no subject)> > Steel-Eye,
> >> you're just being a pessimist. If one> doesn't have to carry days' worth
> >> of food or it's> packaging, the lighter pack weight would mean that a>
> >> full-time hiker would only require 4350 calories a> day. This means the
> >> hiker would merely have to catch,> clean, cook, and eat 30 trout per day.
> >> If it's a> hiker that appreciates sushi, then there is further>
> >> weight-reduction and time-savings, putting the total> in the upper 20s. >
> >> > 3.5 gallons of huckleberries? I'm so on it.> > markv> > > Good
> >> evening,> > > > A 10-inch trout will yield about 4 oz. of meat,> > which
> >> will provide 135> > Calories. If a full-time hiker required 4500> >
> >> Calories/day it would be> > necessary to catch, clean, cook, and eat 33
> >> fish per> > day -- every day -- all> > while hiking 20 miles. Frankly, I
> >> didn't see that> > much good trout water> > anywhere near the trail
> > .> > > > In the Pacific NW there will be trailside> > huckleberries, which
> > provide about> > 80 Calories per cup. The need for 4500 Calories> > would
> > require the hiker to> > pick and eat 3.5 gallons of berries every day. > >
> > Picking that many berries> > would be time-consuming, but the real problem
> > would> > be the time necessary to> > dig and fill about 15 cat-holes every
> > day.> > > > Other than that - good luck,> > > > Steel-Eye> > >
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